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86628 2002-10-07 00:05:00 Hi, I want to use the PCWorld cover CD's linux to watch DVD's on my laptop (IBM T23).

Booted up OK and no problems seeing devices.

Trouble is I can't seem to eject the CD from the one and only CD/DVD drive on the laptop, which I used to boot the CD - I guess the OS must still want it to be there.

So I cant put in the DVD I want to watch...

Any ideas?

Neil.
neil (1041)
86629 2002-10-07 00:11:00 as the linux runs off the cd you will need another cd drive or install linux to the hardrive. tweak'e (174)
86630 2002-10-07 00:16:00 As to whether or not it needs the cd (probably does) I do not know, however you won't be able to eject the cd until it is unmounted, there may be something in the GUI to unmount, otherwise use umount <placewheredevicemounted> in the terminal, but depending on how the disk is set up (haven't looked at it myself yet) this may very well be the root (/). It really does seem doubtful that you would be able to eject the cdrom. SaAB (1292)
86631 2002-10-07 00:20:00 Do you know how to install it to hdd, I would not mind looking at it myself, but I really don't wan't to run it from cd with the time overhead that incurs. NB would you have to use ext2 or would you be able to use reiserfs? SaAB (1292)
86632 2002-10-07 00:52:00 Having had a brief look at the Knoppix environment, I would agree that it is very unlikely the CD can be unmounted as it is constantly being accessed. One funny thing I noticed, however, was that although the CD recognised my sound card (SB Live Value - I saw it being configued during startup), I could not get any sound!!!! Did I miss something important somewhere? Miami Steve (2128)
86633 2002-10-07 01:21:00 Miami S: The sound will probably need to be started ... try "apropos sound", "apropos alsa", "man alsa", in a terminal window. Graham L (2)
86634 2002-10-07 01:24:00 Yep ... the "live CD" technique means that the CD drive is the "hard disk".
There is a way of loading the Cd to a hard disk and booting it ... see the links I gave yesterday in the "Making a partition for the Knoppix swapfile".
Graham L (2)
86635 2002-10-16 20:50:00 Taken me a couple of weeks to find it, but there's a very ugly way of achieving this.

Once Knoppix is up and running you can (must!) start any apps you want for the session like Xine DVD player etc.

Then open a root shell window, type

umount -l /dev/cdrom; eject

This does a 'lazy' unmount of the device, ie does not check for active processes still using it - so some things will be very unpredictable afterwards.

But if I have started Xine, it can now see a DVD in the drive and access it.

Which brings me to the next problem - the Xine release does not decrypt encrypted DVDs - which I assume are all the ones which are regionalised ie pretty much all of them.

The FAQs say there is a plugin library available which will do the job but its all gettin a little hard now - I suppose I'd have to install Xine onto my HD, install the decryption plugin over that, and run that one rather than the one on the Knoppix CD.

Or is there an easier way?

Neil.
neil (1041)
86636 2002-10-17 03:06:00 I don't think there can be an "easy" way to do anything like this. Just think how "easy" it is to install improvements to Windows with a writable system disk.:D Think about how well Windows will go if you remove the hard disk after booting. :_|

Knoppix is meant as a way to get a feel of how Linux does things, with some standard applications on standard hardware. You could use a partition on a hard disk, which can be mounted (manually) each time you start it ... but to make a Linux system which is easy to use, you'll have to install one.
Graham L (2)
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