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Thread ID: 126059	2012-08-04 07:14:00	Do employers properly shortlist applicants?	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1292749	2012-08-04 07:14:00	I applied for a job right, got shortlisted but it appeared that they asked me things they ought to know I haven't done . It was like I have done internal reports but they may had wanted external reporting . And I am doing a career change which I just did an accounting course . So I thought they wanted someone who actually did financial stuff in a job before . B/c in the interview in that latter question, I wasn't even offered to answer it . They just siad that I may not have much experience in it . One of those that, I didn't know why I was there, don't even want the role now . . It was a 6 month contract, while someone does a diff job elsewhere and returns back 6 months after . Why would they asked if I done many contracting jobs, many people won't quit a perm role and take up a 6 month right . . . .	Nomad (952)
1292750	2012-08-04 08:08:00	There are some incredibly dumb people working in recruitment, I had to ask one the other day if she had even read my CV, Then I told her that she clearly had no concept of the industry the position was for, and that she shouldn't be in a position to draw up the shortlist. It went down quite poorly, lmfao. She told me I'd never get a job in the industry I was applying for, I told her she was a dick.	Metla (12)
1292751	2012-08-04 08:17:00	I don't know what you mean by "properly . " There's all sorts of games go on . Quite common is to choose a short list that present the favoured candidate in the right light by being superior to others on the list . The initial interviewer may even go so far as to school the favoured one by giving them hypothetical situations the final interviewer may ask, and what the sought for answer is . The most common though is to organise the list in an order that favours the candidate . If you're up first, forget it, you may as well not even turn up . 2nd to last or last on the list is the best place to be . Those are only some of the games interviewers play . Perhaps you should think yourself lucky to escape . But best of luck in your endeavours .	WalOne (4202)
1292752	2012-08-04 08:28:00	Last interview I went for involved a casual 5 minute conversation followed by a **** load of beer.	plod (107)
1292753	2012-08-04 08:32:00	Best interview I went to we sat down at the table, The boss had my resume, He glanced at it, asked if was all true, I said it is, He asked how much money I wanted, I told him, he said I'll better that by 50c an hour,when can you start, I said money, he said Excellent, see you monday. Had a handshake and I made my exit, as i got to my wagon he calls out, Oh yeah, position comes with a late model Navara... Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet I regretted quitting that one,Lmfao.	Metla (12)
1292754	2012-08-04 09:19:00	Not that this helps you, but the company I work for shortlists the right applicants :) The key thing is having interviewers who know what to look for, and who aren't idiots. For example, we don't have an HR department that pre-screens candidates - applicants go straight through to the relevant hiring manager. We also tend to have various levels of interviews - ranging from initial, basic interviews, deep-dive technical interviews (to make sure people actually know what they claim to know), and then have informal chats sometimes over a beer or two with non-managerial staff to see how well the person would fit in with the team (and to give the candidate an opportunity to ask our guys questions about the company, without any managers present).	somebody (208)
1292755	2012-08-04 09:19:00	Do employers properly shortlist applicants? I should hope not, listing applicants in order of shortness would be a low blow and clearly discriminatory.	R2x1 (4628)
1292756	2012-08-04 09:29:00	I thought most employers drew up a shortlist with the ringer (best suited on paper), some possibles and one wildcard just to make sure	gary67 (56)
1292757	2012-08-04 09:58:00	Might depend on the quality of their shortlist, e.g. for entry level jobs. If candidates have similar CV's, then perhaps more likely to be called in for a interview. A reputable recruitment agency might tell you that the standard of other applicants were high and that you did not make the shortlist. Or sometimes they may not tell you at all, but generally would say that they won't reply back when first applying for a job. Some recruitment companies I think seem to have temp/contract roles and operate as such despite not saying so in some of their ads. This was told to me by a staff person that ran one for a few years, where I trained job seekers. They fill in holiday seasons, maternity leave, etc. This may be why they asked if you had contracts, i.e. short term roles, which would favor such agencies, and more so their clients.	kahawai chaser (3545)
1292758	2012-08-04 10:13:00	I think the employer approached the agency as well b/c the agency referred me to the job before the employer advertised it themselves. I just found the contracts were easier to get than perm full time roles hence I went with it ... was somewhat impt in the earlier part of my career b/c it meant you didn't need to spend 1 or 2yr doing the first entry job. The role that is advertised by the employer was also a 6 monther.	Nomad (952)
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