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Thread ID: 128310	2012-12-12 00:26:00	Severe Tearing, Graphical Artifacts (at wits end!)	Dragoncub (13417)	Press F1

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1317806	2012-12-12 02:20:00	Check something please --- Click start, type in reli - click view reliability History - when it loads, look for any errors at the time it was playing it, it may actually tell you what was going on/wrong, or at least point to the fault.	wainuitech (129)
1317807	2012-12-12 02:49:00	As an update, I cannot detect any tearing at the BIOS, but it is difficult to tell (best I could do was switch to EZ mode and mouse-over highlight buttons rapidly to check the visuals). That would indicate a driver issue. (Thing is, I would have sworn it was driver-related anyway had I not tried three different drivers of completely different ages and gotten the same problems from all, even with driver sweeper). Windows Memory Diagnostic (as suggested by The Error Guy) had nothing to report. In the process of running the reliability monitor now. So what version of the drivers are installed now?? 12.10 or 12.11 beta? If the beta drivers are installed, have you tried 12.10? Missed this one, sorry. Answer: yes. I have tried the beta, I have tried the latest official release, and I have tried the on-disc version (which doesn't have a version number printed on it so I cannot provide one).	Dragoncub (13417)
1317808	2012-12-12 02:53:00	1st thing, get in touch with the seller & let them know ASAP . They may just suggest sending up the vid card ??(fingers crossed) DO NOT tell them you have opened it up . Dont give them any excuse to try & avoid any warranties	1101 (13337)
1317809	2012-12-12 03:22:00	If it does require a freight, I will delay it for another ten days (at least). I'm about to do a big shift, and it will likely be cheaper and faster to ship from my new location (and less cumbersome for return post, since I'd otherwise be moving during). Despite the attempts have installing different drivers, I haven't completely ruled out software. Keep in mind that these issues first became apparent (that is, were noticed) AFTER INSTALLING the latest beta, so it may actually be fragments that DriverSweeper and DriverCleaner missed or did not have permission to erase. It is possible they were present beforehand and I never saw (though.... I do doubt it, especially in the case of artifacts)... but that would imply the hardware mysteriously failed just sitting peacefully in its case.	Dragoncub (13417)
1317810	2012-12-12 03:29:00	What does the reliability monitor report ? Should only take 30 seconds or less to load. If its hardware or software it should tell you what played up and when.	wainuitech (129)
1317811	2012-12-12 03:48:00	Didn't report anything, at least initially. Said it was 'still compiling' on an empty graph despite an extended period. I just opened it again now though after a restart and finally managed to get something. Graph sits high and even until the 11th week, in which case suddenly it gets all jagged. The problem? Well, I get a few /!\ symbols marking 'unsuccessful driver installations' (including PhysX), but only for a period of three weeks (weekly view). That would say software, but I have reinstalled drivers several times since then. WEEK ONE: Unsuccessful driver installation WEEK TWO: Unsuc app reconfiguration (Google Update Helper); four failed Windows Updates, and MSXML 4.0 failed to install twice. There are some critical errors for programmes that stopped working, that is probably due to a hard reset (if memory serves on occurred around this time). WEEK THREE: NVIDIA PhysX Unsuc app installation, twice (one 3hr after the other). Then few the next couple weeks I get a bunch of windows critical events in the form of "Video hardware error". I did actually just upgrade to the beta AGAIN earlier today. AMD installer said there were errors while installing and to look at the log but when I did, it just said successful-successful-successful across the board and the 'Error Messages' had nothing following. This computer has given me more trouble in the two months I've owned it than my laptop did in three years... this is so damn depressing. I just don't know anymore. I could do a complete purge of the PC, reset to the OS completely, but that would require a backup and then redownloading (on limited connection) and reinstalling (for who knows how long)only to have the problem occur again regardless.	Dragoncub (13417)
1317812	2012-12-12 04:36:00	Going by all the faults, one possible cause could be the original install is damaged/faulty ( happens sometimes). As for downloading everything, the only things you should have to redownload is any software you may have done so since it was purchased if the installers weren't kept, and any windows updates ( if you want them). When you got the PC built, you should have been given the Original DVD containing the OS and Product key, along with any CD/DVD's that came with any hardware. By the sounds of the problems since the beginning it wasn't done correctly, or tested in the first place (any components can be faulty right from new). Sometimes if a OS is corrupted, all the work you do trying to fix it is pointless, as once broken it cant be repaired. The only way to be sure is a fresh install.	wainuitech (129)
1317813	2012-12-12 05:00:00	Thats how it usually goes, when all else fails delete everything.	Slankydudl (16687)
1317814	2012-12-12 05:31:00	Going by all the faults, one possible cause could be the original install is damaged/faulty ( happens sometimes). As for downloading everything, the only things you should have to redownload is any software you may have done so since it was purchased if the installers weren't kept, and any windows updates ( if you want them). When you got the PC built, you should have been given the Original DVD containing the OS and Product key, along with any CD/DVD's that came with any hardware. By the sounds of the problems since the beginning it wasn't done correctly, or tested in the first place (any components can be faulty right from new). Sometimes if a OS is corrupted, all the work you do trying to fix it is pointless, as once broken it cant be repaired. The only way to be sure is a fresh install. Sorry, I think I may be misunderstanding here, because I'm not quite sure what you're saying. ...the only things you should have to redownload is any software you may have done... ...which I assume includes both the standards Java, Flash, Reader, and the clients Steam and Origin (including their games)? Yeah... that's the huge data I'm talking about. Some of them are on disc but their DLC and patches are not, and many are online-only. (The computer did not ship with a partitioned HDD, but I imagine I'd need to format anyway.) ...When you got the PC built, you should have been given the Original DVD containing the OS and Product key, along with any CD/DVD's that came with any hardware... I did indeed. A good thing too, since it is apparent I'll need them. ... Sometimes if a OS is corrupted, all the work you do trying to fix it is pointless, as once broken it cant be repaired. The only way to be sure is a fresh install. So basically yes, reinstall the OS? Goddamn it.	Dragoncub (13417)
1317815	2012-12-12 06:26:00	Basically whats written is correct. Sometimes if a OS get damaged, theres no real way to fix it apart from a fresh install. Sometimes when they install things dont always go right. If this is what has happened then all the 'fixing" can be wasted. Actually had one of those today on a Laptop- I installed what was meant to be the correct drivers, but something went wrong and it turned the new install into a total unstable mess. Theres a difference though if doing lots of installs,you can install from preconfigured images, so mine only took 6-7 minutes from wiping the partitions, to installing windows latest updates and drivers. What I'd suggest - save all your data. Wipe out all partitions, reinstall windows and drivers, ONLY load in what you have to so you can simulate /test, try to replicate the same problems that happening now (meaning any program or game if thats all thats playing up) then see if the fault is still there. If it is, unless you're really unlucky then its possible a hardware fault. OR do a reinstall from fresh, then run Burnin Test (www.passmark.com) use the 30 day trial, then click on Configuration / Test And Duty Cycles tick the boxes as shown below: 4551 Then click OK, click the green arrow and agree and see if if causes the PC to fail the test. There will be a few windows open with various stress tasks happening all at once. ( the 2 and 3 D tests running at the same time really load up the graphics) :devil Note: its a stress test, and WILL put the whole PC under a load, it can cause components to fail if they are faulty to start with. While not conclusive it will test the components. The test will stop on its own with either a pass / Fail or the PC will crash/shutdown if its to bad. Edited: Actually, you could run the test as is now, be interesting to see if it fails or not.	wainuitech (129)
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