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| Thread ID: 26198 | 2002-10-22 01:30:00 | bizzaro network problems | falvrez (390) | Press F1 |
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| 91491 | 2002-10-24 03:51:00 | At work a couple of years back we had one slow machine. Worked but very slowly. Network supervisor pulled it apart, reformatted it, pulled it apart again..... Finally came to me saying it must be a database problem as this machine was only accessing the database and everything else had been checked so could I change a setting in the database. Well delving deep into unknown, unheard of configurations is to me very "Last Resort" stuff so I suggested he brought the offending machine into my room and hooked it up to my hub as I knew it was working. "Ah", he says, "it's right across the hall from the server. I'll run a cable direct to the server." Problem solved. It was the patch cable to the wall (which HE had wired up). |
Heather P (163) | ||
| 91492 | 2002-10-24 04:28:00 | check your network protocol setting make sure you're not running netbeui in win98 only, you need to install netbeui for windows 2000 and windows xp so that win98 can browse the network. Good luck!! |
Noodle Man (2310) | ||
| 91493 | 2002-10-24 04:35:00 | Heather; That is wild that the machine could access the database and nothing else, one would assume that if the database was accessable then everything else [hardware and protocols would be fine]. Falvrez; You'll have to start eliminating things. eg. take a known good NIC [preferably different brand] from a 98 box and swop it into the box you are having probs with. I had a NIC which worked but didn't, everytime I reinstalled it it would work for a while but play up [flash lights really fast] sometime later. Turned out that everytime I opened the curtain it would fail, it was a dodgy RJ45 connector on the NIC itself that was being brushed by the curtain opening. :D 42 |
~42~ (2034) | ||
| 91494 | 2002-10-24 05:20:00 | ~42~ - sorry, lack of clarity . The computer was only used to access the database . Other software wasn't used . It was probably slow to log on to the network but the slowness was only noticed whilst accessing and updating the database - therefore they assumed a database problem . Only it wasn't . |
Heather P (163) | ||
| 91495 | 2002-10-24 06:51:00 | Heather; Whew; A sigh of relief B-) Falvrez: Just rereading you fault desription, are you saying it is more than one 98 Machine that is playing up? If so, [grasping at straws here] what about MTU, I know they are different by default in the different OS's. W2k was optimised so if there was a dry joint/rf interference/.... somewhere in the network it could be just enough to knock the 98 boxes off 42 |
~42~ (2034) | ||
| 91496 | 2002-10-25 08:24:00 | Well yu go away for a few days and look what happens - heaps of replies! :) I think a few may have misread my earlier comments tho. It's not a software, or MTU setting or operating system problem - again, I'm only referring to the machines as win98 or win2000 to differentiate them. Here's the thing: I can take a win98 machine, take it to the network switches, plug in the power cord (but leave the unit off - and nothing plugged in, no kb or mouse etc) plug in a brand new off teh shelf in a bag network cable and no network lights at the rear of the machine come on. But I can take a win2000 machine, do the same, and hello network lights. Herein lies the problem! Sure could be cabling but not really since I'm plugging straight into the network switch. Maybe hte type of NIC but they are onboard on the compaqs so no options there - hence I can't simply change the NIC...though at time I certainly wish I could. Hpoe you guys are getting my drift - this isn't an operaiting or software problem, of that I am sure. |
falvrez (390) | ||
| 91497 | 2002-10-25 08:43:00 | Do Win2K machines have some sort of on-board power for cards even when off whilst Win98 off means off? What happens if you turn it on? |
Heather P (163) | ||
| 91498 | 2002-10-26 00:28:00 | You've been getting the "change the OS, use netBEUI" tribe ;-) I'm surprised you haven't been told to get the latest drivers, or run an antivirus :D I'm struggling . . . What is the layout? Is there a server? Is there a switch in one location or a series of hubs, spread around? How long are the cable runs? I've seen a suggestion that for 100BaseT you can have up to 95m in fixed wiring, and max 5m in patch cables . What happens when you change the board speed settings? Are some on fixed settings and some on "autonegotiate"? Full Duplex/half duplex? Try setting some of them to 10 Mbps fixed . . . then 100Mbps fixed . Can you make one of the "dead" ones talk to one machine (not the network) through a small hub or crossover cable? Then though a run of in_the_wall cable? Networks should work . There's enough problems with the rubbish software that people run on the hosts . |
Graham L (2) | ||
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