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Thread ID: 26201 2002-10-22 01:55:00 Attn Graham L - Another question re Linux bootdisk and Win3.11 network Mike (15) Press F1
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91535 2002-10-22 01:55:00 Hi Graham,

I tried out the linux bootdisk, but I couldn't get it to work. My full reply can be found here

Mike.
Mike (15)
91536 2002-10-22 02:36:00 I would say that it didn't see it. An ethernet card should get about 2 lines of output ... the HW address, the IRQ, port address, what sort of cable, board manufacturer and model, the name of the guy who wrote the driver ... The installation disks look pretty hard for ethernet cards, because one of the installation devices is the network. I keep a boot disk -- usually a RH 5.1 one -- for looking at computers at auctions. It's better than MSD or any of the "clever" programmes.

<Scroll lock> or <pause> holds the screen while booting ... one of them works. ( My machines are slow enough that I can read the text as it goes past :D )

Tell us any "words" on the card ... especially on chips, or the FCC ID ...
You might be able to find a common card cheaply (or for nothing, because there are tons of ISA cards around) -- go for 3Com or WD/SMC --- I got half a dozen 3Com Ethernet II cards (and a PII-233 -- probably dead :D) in a $5 auction lot of three boxes on Friday ... They're worth that much (or little) now.
Graham L (2)
91537 2002-10-22 02:58:00 Which boot image should I have used? There were ones for:

HD
CDROM
Network
USB
PCMCIA
and a few others

I tried the Network one, the CDRom one, and the HD one, and they all gave the same result - or rather no result :D

I'll pull out the card again <goes to pull out card>

FCC ID: EJMPCEDPCLA82XX (printed on the PCBoard)
Ethernet Address 00AA00 xxxxxx (printed on the PCBoard)
Intel 1994 352226-001#(printed on a sticker on a chip)
352118-002 18461433513 (on sticker on the PCboard)
R02691729 (on orange sticker on PCBoard)
Intel FA82595TX L5204142 SZ756 (On chip)

On the reverse:
PB 309970-007
KALEX K368
94V-0
2395
E2

I can't test using that machine anymore cause I think I just blew-up the power supply ;) so once I've checked with the guy who owns it, and replace the board, then I can try using the boot disks again :D

Mike.
Mike (15)
91538 2002-10-22 04:01:00 A network boot disk should have worked. :D

That card is an Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ . There is a Linux driver for it "eepro.o", and it is "Tier 2 supported" by Red Hat. That means that it should be detected and usable, but some people have reported troubles. Don Becker wrote the driver, and he is the man for network cards. He did it for years at NASA, and still doing it.

There will almost certainly be a driver for it on that Disk 8 of WFW311.
Graham L (2)
91539 2002-10-22 04:09:00 The only reference apart from discussion forums for a KALEX K368 refers to the Coldfire MB at here (hemmerling.free.fr)

It appears to be a proprietary card specifically for that system and was, apparently, for Win 9x since it may have been plug and play.



Other options:
Flick the card and get another more common one with drivers.

Try here (www.driverforum.com)

Or here (www.driverforum.com)
Merlin (503)
91540 2002-10-22 05:43:00 Mike: That's a Mandrake boot disk isn't it? That assumes a Pentium.:-( so it might not have got to the search for ethernet cards. See if you can get an RH boot disk ... (Or try a Knoppix one ... ) Graham L (2)
91541 2002-10-22 06:10:00 I had the same problem re the math coprocessor, trying to boot the mandrake 7.2 kernel on my 386.

You will need to get a kernel that supports math emulation to get far enough to for it to detect your NIC.

xdenu worked for me. The main site is broken, but google found a mirror when I looked last.
bmason (508)
91542 2002-10-22 08:17:00 Hi Graham - I actually took the network card out of the 386 (after I blew the power supply) and put it in my spare pentium, and used the boot disk in there, and didn't see any reference to a network card in all the text. Any chance you could email an RH boot disk image? :D
mike.l at ywamalumni.com

Mike.
Mike (15)
91543 2002-10-23 02:26:00 I can't email very easily ...

Redhat 6.2 will certainly load on the earlier CPUs ... 7.0 probably will.
Mandrake seem to be the main culprit who assume Pentiums. :D

Try ftp.phys.canterbury/pub/linux/distributions/ for RH6.2 ... the path will probably be something like : redhat/redhat-6.2-en/os/i386/images and get bootnet.img (that ought to have lots of ethernet drivers). If you can't get that ... (I can't "see" ftp sites), this one ought to be OK -- the fountainhead: ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/redhat-6.2-en/os/i386/images/bootnet.img .

Otherwise, up a level or so to RH7.0 at mirror.aarnet.edu.au . (This site is a very useful one ... they've got lots.)

Just use the RAWRITE programme from your CD to make the floppy.
Graham L (2)
91544 2002-10-23 06:27:00 LOL Graham - Mandrake booting didn't see the network card, nor the other card I tested it with (which I know works). So in the end I just wiped the drive that was in there, and spent several hours installing Mandrake 8.2 onto it (a Pentium 100 with 24mb of RAM), and once it was finally up and running I went to find the network card and it said that it couldn't find a network card (and I had a look at the back at the lights and they weren't going) so I guess the card is dead :) I took that out and plugged in my other card and it detected that fine, including the port and the IRQ (which is what I needed) so once I find a card I can use in the 386 I'll detect it on the pentium then plug it into the 386 :D And hopefully it'll all work from there.

I've just been offered lots of old 486s with network cards, so once they're all here I'm going to try to install a 486 optimised version of Mandrake onto them and try networking them all (since I've never networked with Linux before it'll make a nice project for a day or two... if I can find enough power outlets :D)

Thanks for your help :)

Mike.
Mike (15)
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