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Thread ID: 26326	2002-10-24 19:27:00	MEMORY - AVG	Katydid (2188)	Press F1

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92645	2002-10-24 19:27:00	When I click on 'run AVG antivirus' then 'info' this gives you information on your computer. At the bottom it has listed Total Memory 64MB - Free Memory .........................and here is my worry. Sometime that Free Mem reads 11 or 3 and today 0 !!!!!!!!!!! That was straight after starting up the computer as we close down each night. This I noticed not long after I downloaded the Free version of AVG and was exploring all its guff. So I got rid of a lot of stuff to hopefully up the number. Is the free memory different to the total memory as I do know that System resouces is 64% free and I always took that as Memory???????????? In other words plenty of room for more programs.?? Is that total in the Free Memory something to really worry about - is there anything I can do??? Katydid	Katydid (2188)
92646	2002-10-24 19:43:00	Wouldn't worry about it. Just looked at mine - for the first time - and it shows total mem 128 - free 4mb. Everything works OK Bye	Peter H (220)
92647	2002-10-24 20:14:00	Still, 64mb. Its the first upgrade people do to increase memory, say add another 256mb. You will find you can open more programs at once without problems. My friend has only 64mb and he is really surprised when he sees what I can have running at one time without slowing down. I have 384mb with 166mb free when running Opera browser, two IE browser windows, msn messenger, mailwasher, OE, Sygate, AVG, resourse meter and not to mention all the background programs. Sygates still hanging in there too ;)	Danger (287)
92648	2002-10-24 20:59:00	Yes you have 64MB of ram, when it says you have 11 or 3 or 0 It means you are low or have run out of RAM, and the computer is now using the hard-disk, commonly occurs when many progs are open and you notice your computer slows down and the hard-drive goes nuts. It does not cause any problems bar slowing things do, so its ok. "system resources" is not your RAM it is your RESOURCES. Resources = a small part of RAM allocated for backwards compatability with many programmes. (windows uses it itself) RAM = is the stuff that passes info to your CPU, and makes things run faster. What makes it confusing is that when you got an "out of memmory" message this is not because you have run out of RAM, it is because you have run out of RESOURCES. Confusing I know! remember running out of ram just slows you down, running out of resources means a crash. You ask how do i get more resources? either get WinXP it has heaps more, or cut down the amount of applications at start-up or running at a single time. I hope this clarifies everything for you	roofus (483)
92649	2002-10-24 23:59:00	Thanks Rufas - Peter H - Danger, Ok . Here goes again . I have read about having less programs opening on start up but was a bit iffy about thinning them down without making sure I was doing the right thing . If I take them off the taskbar (the ones I dont use so much) I would open them by clicking on start and then the one I want in the Programs list . . . . . . . . . . . . is that right?? I was going to read up about it but life always seems so busy, so I am finding Press F1 is great and folk like you a wonderful help . Had a sneak look into your conversations on the question of Fatal Exceptions (get that myself very rarely) and it made my day :^0 . Danger, Glad to hear that you still have Sygate with you . Katydid	Katydid (2188)
92650	2002-10-25 00:06:00	From experience Win 9x need around 100mb just to run windows, once you have more than 128mb the system gets a good boost and runs far more efficently because it doesn't use much from the swap file. Windows XP needs roughly that of Win9x, so you really need a minimum of 128mb for Win9x and 256mb for XP. SD-RAM is cheap as chips right now so got get some more.	crozier (2004)
92651	2002-10-25 00:07:00	oops........................should have checked first.......katydid :^O :^O :^O	Katydid (2188)
92652	2002-10-25 00:16:00	Yes thats, right you can load them from the programmes menu. the only one you probably shouldn't take away from the taskbar is you anti-virus scanner. The rest is up to you. Either disable the programmes in the options in the programme itself, or type "msconfig" at the run command, and goto startup and disable unwanted programmes	roofus (483)
92653	2002-10-25 01:57:00	Thanks Rufus, Will do that . The shortcut icons on the desktop . . . . . . . . . . . . they dont open when the computer is started up, do they? if so I will take some of those off too . I have just been into Misconfigure etc . like you explained . I am puzzled, as feel all would be esential to leave . A while ago I dragged approx . 13 of my shortcuts from the desktop to the taskbar . eg . all my corel programs - address book etc . They are not listed in the misconfigure list . Have I done the wrong thing putting them there, the desktop was getting rather crowded but could put up with it . If they are ok there, do they open at start up too even though not listed . If they do guess I need to go into each program and disable? On second thoughts perhaps I would get more memory if I did take most of the icons that I dont use a lot, off the desktop too . Hope my explanation is clear to you . Katydid	Katydid (2188)
92654	2002-10-25 02:13:00	> From experience Win 9x need around 100mb just to run > windows, once you have more than 128mb the system > gets a good boost and runs far more efficently > because it doesn't use much from the swap file. > Windows XP needs roughly that of Win9x, so you really > need a minimum of 128mb for Win9x and 256mb for XP. > > SD-RAM is cheap as chips right now so got get some > more. Oooh, Not neccesarily true. I've run 98 just dandily on only 16MB RAM on an old 486. It's not the speediest Demon in the world, but it goes fine. XP - should have 128 as a minimum, 192MB + is good. 9x, anything over 16MB, but for multi tasking (such as up to 4 browser windows), 32 MB would suffice. I run 2000 fine on only 48MB RAM. I agree that it speads things up, but I think that what you said was a little exaggerative. The more RAM, obviously the better, so long as your proccessor matches up to speed. No point having 512MB RAM on a P75. SD-RAM is cheap, right you are. I've seen 128MB for around $40 at some places. Right on there... GO GET SOME! :D Cheers	Chilling_Silence (9)
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