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93203	2002-10-26 04:59:00	My computer, Cyrix 266, Windows 98SE has just about become un-useable with fatal exceptions, illegal operations, IE has encountered a problem, invalid page fault, and similar dire warnings Usually it will run OK for perhaps an hour on starting up, but regardless of what program I am running, sooner or later it will freeze up and one or other of the messages appear. Once this happens I might as well pack up because if I try to carry on, I will get similar faults sometimes at the rate of one a minute. I have removed items from my start-up list which I thought might be causing the problem, but with no effect. I am considering that I must re-install Windows - question 1, is this a good idea? Question 2, if I do re-install, is it necessary to re-format the drive? I really do not want to lose downloaded programs or have to re-install printer, scanner etc. Nor do I want to backup all the data - should do anyway but would require multi floppies. All suggestions welcome	muddyboots (2350)
93204	2002-10-26 05:09:00	hello "format c:".... yes, i'd format and reinstall, but it will involve the things you don't want to do. create a separate partition and save the data you want to keep on there. read the faq's for how to do it... you'll still have to reinstall printer and scanner, but that's minor anyway.	loser (538)
93205	2002-10-26 05:18:00	Once you have got to that stage a re-format seems the obvious way to go. When I make a computer in the first place I partition the drive into two lumps.... C: and D: Get the people to save all IMPORTANT stuff on the D: drive. You can then format C:	Elephant (599)
93206	2002-10-26 05:18:00	Have you run a scandisk, and defrag? Could be a simple solution to a difficult problem.:)	raddersnz (684)
93207	2002-10-26 05:31:00	Or if you don't want to format the drive. Go to dos and type deltree c:\windows that will delete windows, and reinstall	roofus (483)
93208	2002-10-26 05:43:00	Before we get to carried away with a reformat lets look at other options. 1-Do a thorough annd complete Scandisk and check the box, automatically repair errors or something to that effect. 2-Do a Defrag. 3-www.pacs-portal.co.uk Using the above link as a reference tool go Start > Run > type in msconfig > Enter > click on the starup tab > remove the ticks from anything that is not required > Reboot. 4-You have a anti virus program and is it up to date. Have you done a virus scan though this is not likely to be the fault but worth checking anyway. A scandisk and defrag is not the cure all to everything but it will sometimes it will solve the problems. The msconfig option is also a good option to explore. If all else fails you could then look at reformatting C drive. If you have data you want to save and you appear not to have a CD burner, look at the option of creating a partition and copying your data to the partition before reformatting. If you do reformat I would follow through with the suggetion of a earlier reply and create a second or more partition and use C drive only for your OS and programs and D and any other partitions for data.	duckyduck (197)
93209	2002-10-27 22:24:00	Many thanks to all for helpful replies. I had already carried out most of the suggestions short of re-installing. Have done scandisc, defrag, and a month or so ago NAV. Cannot presently keep computer running long enough to have NAV complete a scan, but have not been anywhere I would expect to pick up a virus. The main reason I asked whether it was necessary to re-format, was that I remember on a previous occasion some years ago, my computer completely locked up and I had to use emergency boot disc to get it going. On that occasion I then just ran the operating system installation disc and everything seemed OK, but can't really remember whether that was windows or DOS. Muddyboots	muddyboots (2350)
93210	2002-10-27 22:39:00	one small thing. check the cpu fan and any case fans are working. also check the cpu heatsink is not full off dust. half the problem could be heat which might explain why it takes an hour or so before itt crashes.	tweak'e (174)
93211	2002-10-29 06:27:00	Have checked that both fans are working, and tried leaving the case open thinking heat could be the problem, but did not know there was a heat-sink under that CPU fan. Am not keen to dive in that far, but will buy a tin of compressed air next time I go to town, and see if I can blow dust out. Many thanks for suggestion Muddyboots	muddyboots (2350)
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