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Thread ID: 26365 2002-10-25 08:48:00 Networking permissions trouble between 98 and XP Mike (15) Press F1
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92937 2002-10-25 08:48:00 I've just networked (well peer-to-peer via cross-over) my XP machine to my 98 machine (Linux on that box did not like the NIC, so off it came and on went 98), and it's all working pretty well - I can ping each machine via both IP address and computer name, I can browse the 98 machine from the XP machine etc., and I can see the XP machine from the 98 machine.

However if I try to access the XP machine from the 98 machine I get asked for a password :) Where the password came from, I have no idea. There's only one password I use on XP, and that's the admin password (and no, that one doesn't work).

I have a feeling it's something to do with how my drives (on XP) are shared - for some reason the system has already shared the drives, and I can't turn that off (I guess I could from within Admin), so I had to add another share for each drive to make them share properly. I have no idea why the system has shared them (perhaps something to do with IIS?), but I wonder if that's part of the reason I have to enter an unknown password in to access the XP machine from 98? I have no idea what the password is, so I can't access XP from 98 at all.

Rather frustrating :)

Mike.
Mike (15)
92938 2002-10-25 09:36:00 So you're running IIS.

We installed on the college computers the other day (learning ASP). We found that when accessing through a browser to "localhost" all was fine. But when to 127.0.0.1 it asked us to enter a password, could possibly be related.

How have you shared the drives, full access?
You could possibly access c:\ through \\mikesxprig\c$ which is a default admin share.
-=JM=- (16)
92939 2002-10-25 09:41:00 >>> We installed on the college computers the other day (learning ASP).
>>> We found that when accessing through a browser to "localhost" all
>>> was fine. But when to 127.0.0.1 it asked us to enter a password,
>>> could possibly be related.

Don't think it's related, as I can browse either localhost or 127.0.0.1 no problem on my XP machine

>>> How have you shared the drives, full access?

Yup.

>>> You could possibly access c:\ through \\mikesxprig\c$ which is a default admin share.

Well that's the thing :) My drives are automatically shared (I don't know why), using C$ and D$. I shared them myself as C and D, as I couldn't get access to C$ and D$ (asked for a password, and everything I entered was incorrect). I couldn't get access to C or D though.

Mike.
Mike (15)
92940 2002-10-25 11:14:00 Have you tried just sharing a folder such as the shared documents folder. Because some things just will not get shared like My Documents.

Have tried putting a password on to the shared items that way you will know the password.

Ofcourse you've adjusted your firewalll havent' you :)
-=JM=- (16)
92941 2002-10-25 11:23:00 try a simple test .. create an account in XP and use that account on the 98 machine to access... mashimaro (2168)
92942 2002-10-25 20:04:00 The C$ and D$ are administrative shares created by default in XP, 2000 and NT. Usually used by system administrators and those who ar aware of how to access them.


A workgroup relies on each computer user being his/her own administrator of the machine they use - unlike a domain which has centralised administration.



Check the workgroup name and TCP/IP addresses on each machine

Confirm physical and software continuity by pinging each machine from the other

Check the 98 user exists in XP and has correct privileges

Check the shares have correct user access permmisions

Search the MS knowledgebase for information

Post any error messages - adequately described - encountered on each machine.
Merlin (503)
92943 2002-10-25 21:50:00 >>> The C$ and D$ are administrative shares created by default in XP, 2000 and NT.
>>> Usually used by system administrators and those who ar aware of how to access them.

Care to enlighten me? :D

>>> Check the workgroup name and TCP/IP addresses on each machine
>>> Confirm physical and software continuity by pinging each machine from the other

They're not a problem... I can see both computers on both computers - I just can't access the XP one from the 98 one. Both computers can ping each other no problem, both IP address and computer name.

>>> Check the 98 user exists in XP and has correct privileges

The user didn't exist, but does now - although would it work using the same user name on both PCs at the same time? That could be the problem ?:|

>>> Check the shares have correct user access permmisions

Yup, not a problem.

>>> Post any error messages - adequately described - encountered on each machine.

I have absolutely no problem accessing the 98 machine from XP - can browse it, run programs, copy, paste, delete files etc. no problem. Just cannot get any access to the XP machine from the 98 one.
I now get the following message:

\\XPMachine is not accessable
Unknown Error 31

I'm searching the KB now, but so far have had no luck.

Mike.
Mike (15)
92944 2002-10-25 22:12:00 Ach! Nevermind - I had to put in a user password on the 98 machine, even though the XP machine doesn't use passwords :) how weird... but it worked

Mike.
Mike (15)
92945 2002-10-26 01:43:00 Very simple to fix. Either add an account to the XP machine that matches the login you used for the Win98 machine or turn on the Guest account.

And you need to turn it on from the Administrator goodies stuff and not just the front screen to make it work properly.

Thats all I did and then turned on the shares and away it went. Without the guest account it kept asking for passwords.
Big John (551)
92946 2002-10-26 05:49:00 Sometimes even I forget that all users need to logon to access resources on a network - regardless of platform.

Btw - XP logs on also. The 'ability' to logon without prompting for a password (which is entered during installation) was introduced with 2000 Professional and also applies to XP.
Merlin (503)
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