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94470 2002-10-30 23:17:00 but....so its like "their" invention..
but hwo did...all the NZ isps know how to set it up? surel;y they helped eachother...well..in some cases i wouldnt say that...
But yeah I know whatcha mean..
SO i guess i've just gotta read and read and read till i get to know how to do it myself eh
csinclair83 (200)
94471 2002-10-30 23:26:00 >When a company spend large $ designing a system, I would doubt they would tell anyone how they did it. For free that is..

True, but Telecom Ihug Telstra and others do like to brag about themselves from time to time. There was heaps that IHUG put on thier own site pre soutern cross cable days about thier super clever trick of getting the data into the country via satalite, and using the exsisting international bits of string for the 5% of traffic that was outgoing. Rememer this was the clever trick that made IHUG able to be the first ISP to offer flatrate. Revolutionary stuff at the time!

Telecom have bragged in detail about the southern cross cable, its path, strengths (and strangely it's vonerabilitys) and it's redunandcy. this stuff seemed to disapear from the web just after 11sept2001

Telstra had (have?) a map showing its backbone, and bragging about how with the purchase of Clear it has most of the country covered with a backbone that can move as much as telecom to most areas.
Clueless (181)
94472 2002-10-30 23:33:00 I could call what I did being a internet service provider.

I have DSL and a 56K modem. I turned my computer into a Dialin server by accepting an incoming call to my 56K modem which then networked onto my DSL connection which gave whoever dialed into my computer internet access.

Since the connection speed is your upload speed they could only get a maximum of 33.6K from my 56K modem but still had the advantage of using my DSL to access the net. Basically I was giving them free access to the net. This idea came about when ZFree was going and people I knew who used ZFree for nothing didn't feel like paying money just to check emails which is basically all they did.

This is the same concept they use for bigger service providers but they would use proper equipment for giving you the speed you require. I don't think I can imagine a lot of machines with lots of modems and everyone dialing into them and then being networked onto a faster connection but it's close to the real thing.
~qwerty (2369)
94473 2002-10-30 23:42:00 Also check this (http://www . orcon . net . nz/)
go to "products" > "ISP services"

It gives some overview as to whats involved .

. Clueless
Clueless (181)
94474 2002-10-31 00:21:00 >ISP tend to not have lots of modems now. It costs too much. And it ties up "conventional" phone lines -- which causes overloads in telephone systems.

Just a thought.... if the modem bank concept is dead, then why are ISP's still trying to discourage people form connecting 24/7?
24/7 connections usually mean another phone line is rented, (i did back when i had dial up access) which the telco's probably approve of (rumour has it they like it when we give them more $$$). Seeing 24/7 dial up no longer ties up ISP modem-banks, why the discouragement to leaving the connection on?

Still we see paradise offering 200 hours(?) and other not quite flatrate packages
Clueless (181)
94475 2002-10-31 00:36:00 mmmm... How many hours in a month? Lets do some math:
30*24 = 720... Now, with some ISP's offering 300 hours, that means that you can effectively spend almost half a month connected, or 10 hours a day online. Now, If you ask me, you should be allowed to use that all up at the start if you please. I'm not complaining, I was connected to Ihug for 4 days straight without getting d/c'd by ihug, so I'm a happy customer!!!


Chilling_Silence
Chilling_Silence (9)
94476 2002-10-31 00:39:00 I still havent figured out how to be an ISP? Chilling_Silence (9)
94477 2002-10-31 00:48:00 I was 24/7 with IHUG, thats what the third phone line into the house with 7 people was for. These days i'm on cable, so i'm legitimatly on 24/7. I know of many who have that second phone line just so they can stay on 24/7.
Dialing up and waiting for all that screaming an' fussing to end is so pasé

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
94478 2002-10-31 01:18:00 >>> I still havent figured out how to be an ISP?

No, nor have I. What do they do? Some 'gateway' to the net that we all have to pay for. For what? Some big grunty computers that hold mirrors so we don't have to go to Timbucktu ourselves?

Puzzle me too.
mark c (247)
94479 2002-10-31 01:24:00 i am gonna take many questions out of here...and send them to 2 maybe 3 different ISPS...telstra, xtra and maybe a local one...to see if they give me answers or if i get laughed at..or if i even get a answer at all knowing telstra are useless...sorry if any of u use them...

and i'd definelty tell u all the responses if i get any :D
csinclair83 (200)
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