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| Thread ID: 26550 | 2002-10-30 01:05:00 | Internet Service Provider Business | csinclair83 (200) | Press F1 |
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| 94460 | 2002-10-30 03:48:00 | Ooops.. Just missed that one... I'm getting there, But still not too clear on it. | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 94461 | 2002-10-30 03:49:00 | If your talking about being a web server, then possibly yes. You can easily set up your own PC to act as a server, delivering content straight to the web. If you're talking about ISP, not so easily. Basically an ISP has huge computer with sh!tloads of modems in them. Customers dial in to the ISP and get connected to the modems. This is why sometime you will get a busy signal. Then your connection goes to a router, which is basically a device that sends all the packets of internet info to the correct modem. Please bear in mind that this is a basic dscription. It is actually far more complex, and you'll be lucky to find an ISP who is willing to tell you what gear they have and how they do things. Of course, this only applies to dial-up. When you're talking cable, it's a whole new barrel of fish.. BTW Cisco routers don't come cheap. TMI SiK |
SoniKalien (792) | ||
| 94462 | 2002-10-30 04:00:00 | Okay, but all ISP's go through Telecom?! | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 94463 | 2002-10-30 04:05:00 | Not sure. Some used to go through clear I think (Saturn? Paradise?) Basically there was a big argument over termination a few years back (look up kiwi share agreement) that telecom breached. The furore was about Telecom charging the earth for anyone connected to Clear (put simply). Robo can give you lots of info on this. So can Geoff Palmer who took Telecom to court if I remember rightly... ISTBC SiK |
SoniKalien (792) | ||
| 94464 | 2002-10-30 04:06:00 | Just re-read the original question, and there is a big difference between an Internet Service Provider and an Internet Access Provider. | SoniKalien (792) | ||
| 94465 | 2002-10-30 04:07:00 | ISP tend to not have lots of modems now. It costs too much. And it ties up "conventional" phone lines -- which causes overloads in telephone systems. Now, once your dialup goes to the data system of Telecom, the modem signals will be transformed to digital signals which are then multiplexed on a fast digital link to the ISP. That will be done in Telecom buildings. The Internet backbone is a collection of fast links (optical fibre, satellite, wires) connected with a lot of very fast routers. There is limited acces to that, through gateway machines. Each ISP will connect to a gateway. (Big ISPs will own a gateway of their own). |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 94466 | 2002-10-30 04:08:00 | Can anybody draw a diagram of this stuff? | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 94467 | 2002-10-30 22:43:00 | Please someone...a digital diagram of this so i can get a more clearer idea of it..as i still dont really get it.. i can give a webpage for it if u want it online so others can see it :D send it to sinclair @ man . quik. co.nz Also...If i wanna ask a ISP for a full detailed email/document of how the ISP actually works...say, what it took to set it up, and what servers required...and connections and anything else needed.. how do i "ask" them for that document.. like...a email that explains itself without having them to contact me asking "huh" lol |
csinclair83 (200) | ||
| 94468 | 2002-10-30 23:05:00 | Graham L, you say: > Now, once your dialup goes to the data system of Telecom, the modem signals will be transformed to digital signals which are then multiplexed on a fast digital link to the ISP. That will be done in Telecom buildings. So what about those who connect through a telstra phone number to paradise? I would have thought that Telstra would not be directing such calls to telecom, indeed where possible, i would have thought they would provide thier own links to the ISPs for all internet "calls" even if not paradise, clear, or any telstra ISP. ?:| Also surely those of us on cable don't connect directly through telecom? .Clueless |
Clueless (181) | ||
| 94469 | 2002-10-30 23:08:00 | > Please someone...a digital diagram of this so i can > get a more clearer idea of it..as i still dont really > get it.. > i can give a webpage for it if u want it online so > others can see it :D > send it to sinclair @ man . quik. co.nz > > Also...If i wanna ask a ISP for a full detailed > email/document of how the ISP actually works...say, > what it took to set it up, and what servers > required...and connections and anything else > needed.. > how do i "ask" them for that document.. > like...a email that explains itself without having > them to contact me asking "huh" lol You are asking for something that has a huge level of Intellectual Property attached to it. You might as well ask KFC for their recipe as well, if you get the meaning. When a company spend large $ designing a system, I would doubt they would tell anyone how they did it. For free that is.. |
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