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95414 2002-11-02 04:18:00 Hi Team

Some time back there was extensive discussion about the merits of expensve DVD players over the current crop of cheapies.

At the time I had purchased a Lenoxx from Farmers and was very happy with its performance and range of features. It seemed to me that there was very little if anything that the expensive jobbies could offer that this player wouldn't do just as well and it looks good too.

Performance continues to be excellent but as cream on the cake I find that it is multizone as well. To change zones, all one has to do is eject the disc, enter 9653 on the remote (a small window will open with 00 showing) enter just the single digit requred for the new zone then reinsert the disc and press play. The same process will change it back to the original zone.

My happiness is complete. :D

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
95415 2002-11-02 04:26:00 HI BT

I have one as well - it's an excellent unit for the price.
Even has some features not found on more expensive models, such as the zoom feature. Zoom is something I use all the time and even some much more expensive Pioneer models (for example) don't have this.
I saw in an internet mag once a reviewer going on about how he couldn't see the zoom feature being of use - I can only imagine that he had one of the new 16:9 TVs...on 4:3 zoom is essesntial.
falvrez (390)
95416 2002-11-02 04:26:00 the pioneer model just plays wot ever region it is without all the hassles of inputting keys and numbers. can the lenoxx also play cdrs or cdrw. I doubt there are any real equivalents of a pioneer, besides Lenoxx. vk_dre (195)
95417 2002-11-02 04:54:00 And, the Pioneer has an excellent Audio performance - on a par with a high quality stand-alone budget audiophile CD player.

The Pioneer would be my choice
Baldy (26)
95418 2002-11-02 05:09:00 > And, the Pioneer has an excellent Audio performance -
> on a par with a high quality stand-alone budget
> audiophile CD player.
>
> The Pioneer would be my choice

How do you substantiate the claim considering audio output is through a digital output that is sent to a receiver or amp.
It doesn't matter wether its a $2000 player or a $200 its the same 1's and 0's going down the cable.

Now if your refering to onboard analoge sound then yes you are probably right. But whats the use of having analoge sound when you have the option of digital.
roofus (483)
95419 2002-11-02 05:30:00 Its all to do with the audio design Roofus.

CD players all have a digital to analogue converters. Some manufacturers use cheap and nasty circutry, while others use something a bit more specialised.

Go to a specialist audio dealer and use your ears!
Baldy (26)
95420 2002-11-02 05:38:00 > Its all to do with the audio design Roofus.
>
> CD players all have a digital to analogue converters.
> Some manufacturers use cheap and nasty circutry,
> while others use something a bit more specialised.
>
> Go to a specialist audio dealer and use your ears!

What your saying doesn't make sense. AC-3 and DTS audio are digital out, there is no digital to analouge converters involved untill it gets to the receiver.
If you have a dvd with an onboard decoder then YES sure a more expensive player will give you better sound. But i've already said that.
roofus (483)
95421 2002-11-02 07:19:00 Out of curiosity, how much does the Pioneer cost?

After 35-odd years in consumer electronics, I long ago lost my blind faith in brand-name guarantees of quality or performance. It would not surprise me if Pioneer DVD players were made in China, along with quite a few other well known "quality" brands. Ever since dedicated chips were made for the processing of DVD signals (leading to the major drop in price) there is little to choose between the products of any manufacturer.

In my view the performance and reliability of the Lenoxx player is equal to any current product costing up to 4 times the amount I paid, most are not multizone and the Lenoxx DVD unit is a standard dual-laser computer type that is replaceable in event of out of warranty mechanical or laser failure.

Having to use the remote to change zones is an awful imposition I must admit, but one I guess I can force myself to accept on the few occasions I want to play an out of zone disc.

Plus, of course, as Roofus quite correctly observes, digital is digital and IMHO few eyes or ears are good enough to reliably evaluate D/A convertors. On top of which, the linearity of the video and sound circuits in the TV are almost certainly inferior to the D/A process, and then there is the inherent non-linearity (gamma) in the CRT, and further, who guaranteed the fidelity of the original audio & video that was recorded on the DVD? Do I need to move on to loudspeakers or room acoustics?

That's my opinion, but of course I could be wrong.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :D
Billy T (70)
95422 2002-11-02 08:47:00 Sorry, I neglected to point out, if I want to listen to audio CDs I use an audio CD player, not the DVD, but I doubt that I would hear much difference anyway. To get any realistically discernable difference in audio quality you need to spend a lot more than the average person can afford on the whole audio chain from player through to speakers.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
95423 2002-11-02 09:15:00 > > Its all to do with the audio design Roofus .
> >
> > CD players all have a digital to analogue
> converters .
> > Some manufacturers use cheap and nasty circutry,
> > while others use something a bit more specialised .
> >
> > Go to a specialist audio dealer and use your ears!
>
> What your saying doesn't make sense . AC-3 and DTS
> audio are digital out, there is no digital to
> analouge converters involved untill it gets to the
> receiver .
> If you have a dvd with an onboard decoder then YES
> sure a more expensive player will give you better
> sound . But i've already said that .
>
>

Sorry Roofus, wasn't meaning to be a smart ass or anything . All I was trying to say was that I can tell the difference in the audio quality through my very expensive (non-digital) English pre/power amp and speakers . I am a complete novice when it comes to explaining the electronic technicalities . I just let my ears do the listening .

I was always under the impression that sound was converted from digital to analog and the sound quality was dependant on the quality of the components installed .

In the case of the Pioneer - it HAS a superior sound qaulity to the Lennox . Although most people will be more than happy with the quality of Lennox product, I would sooner pay a little more and get a better aural experience . . . . . . .

Its the same with computers . I am happy with a bog standard Packard Bell, where as most people on this forum aspire to top of the line custom built computers .

BALDY:-)
Baldy (26)
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