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95783 2002-11-04 03:47:00 I have 3 PCs networked using HPNA (Home Phoneline Network Adaptors) and I want to use jetstream. Will I have to use filters with the HPNAs or will that affect their communication? As I understand it these things work in a similar way to ADSL in so far as they use the phone line at a higher frequency, but I need to know how to run these 3 technologies (Phone, HPNA & ADSL) together. crozier (2004)
95784 2002-11-04 03:54:00 Hey, dunno the answer, but HPNA's sound like fun. Where'd u get them from? Chilling_Silence (9)
95785 2002-11-04 04:00:00 If you have a "proper" installation which gives you a socket for ADFSL, and another for "telephone", from which the other sockets are fed you might get away with it. Filters work both ways. The filter which stops the ADSL signal getting into the telephone segment will work equally well at stopping high frequencies from the telephone segment from getting into the ADSL part. But "stopping" is relative. (Low pass) filters reduce the levels above certain frequencies.

Networks work best when they have their own wires. ;-) Trying to use two "similar" technologies on the same wires is likely to not work. But give it a try. However, I'd prefer to have a separate set of cables. If you don't use actual phones on the sockets which have computers on them, can you isolate them from the incoming line?
Graham L (2)
95786 2002-11-04 04:27:00 http://scuttle.netfirms.com if he doesn't have them on his home page send him an email. The come in pairs and are HPNA 2 which mean they run at 10mbit. Just plug them into the phone line and you have a network, as long as they're all on the same phone number. crozier (2004)
95787 2002-11-04 04:30:00 My understanding is that you don't need a phone on the line, neither does the line have to be active. But HPNA2 is an industry standard so surely they would have taken into account ADSL? Ans therefore make the 2 technologies work side by side? crozier (2004)
95788 2002-11-04 05:00:00 If the HPNA service uses AM frequencies like ADSL does, you might not get full ADSL speeds. This is ok with Jetstream Starter but not with
Full Rate Jetstream.
You might have to get Jetstream Starter instead if you want to go for ADSL!
utopia (2200)
95789 2002-11-04 06:11:00 I'd have to say that it would be a good idea to wait for Peter Coleman to post.

He would be the ADSL guru around here. ;)
-=JM=- (16)
95790 2002-11-04 08:33:00 Very nice of you to think so,JM,however he has me stumped this time.I have never come across a phone line network.Always wanted to try one but never found anyone using it.I think i might agree with Grahme L,but I'd only be guessing.I shall ask around and and see if I can find anything out.Interesting question though.

Peter
Peter Coleman (597)
95791 2002-11-04 09:07:00 Jetstart will probably suffice at first, at least until the novilty wears off I I stop downloading everything I see :) But then I'd more than likely want to go for speed rather than quantity. I shall wait at the feet of the guru......

I amazing about these things is the cost, they were only about $50 a pair. Sure I only get 10mbit, but for home use that's fine. Now with the whole family networked it's logical to look at broadband.
crozier (2004)
95792 2002-11-04 10:26:00 There is heaps of info on these systems available on the web. Some say "compatable with DSL.Lite" which is probably a Jetstart type product.

However consider how they may connect overseas (USA). It may be more common to use a central splitter/filter, and in that case of course it would be likely to work, as your "phone line" in the house is isolated by a splitter, somewhat different to a distributed filter arrangement.
godfather (25)
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