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| 97738 | 2002-11-13 05:47:00 | >Interestingly enough, when I bought a PC for my 7 year old I got a >Compaq (now HP). Several reasons for this including the support and >the factory restore procedure as opposed to reinstalling Windows. Exactly right, and I would still recommend them any day for people that want a home PC (not for gaming) and don't want the hassle of compatability issues, and don't want to have to become a geek to operate it. They are reliable. The reason a lot of "customer tweaking" cannot be done on their OEM BIOS means they stay reliable. I know of several 1997 Win95 models that are still running fine, never been reformatted. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 97739 | 2002-11-13 12:38:00 | >>Interestingly enough, when I bought a PC for my 7 year old I got a Compaq (now HP). Several reasons for this including the support and the factory restore procedure as opposed to reinstalling Windows. I personally prefer just reinstalling the OS since that is all that you usually need to do ,if you use HP like restore disks you usually loose all your data and any programs you have put on,which can be quite a hassle and as for HP support well...I can quote you lots of bad support cases from HP and alot of big OEM,s. At the end of the day a local guy(usually the guy that built it) coming around to your house to sort out the problem has got to be the best support , shipping your PC off to god knows where and waiting for weeks is not much support at all. >>Exactly right, and I would still recommend them any day for people that want a home PC (not for gaming) and don't want the hassle of compatability issues, and don't want to have to become a geek to operate it. I don,t know of any home pc,s that are not used for gaming at some stage and as far as I know XP is XP and works exactly the same on an HP as a Custom built pc.......and what compatability issues? and lastly HP cd writers are very good writers and are made by Sony which would explain why they are so good,however Nero burning rom would not install on my friends pc with HP writer,saying the drive was not compatable. :) ;) |
tech_mister (433) | ||
| 97740 | 2002-11-13 20:39:00 | > I personally prefer just reinstalling the OS since that is all that you > usually need to do ,if you use HP like restore disks you usually loose > all your data and any programs you have put on,which can be quite > a hassle There's usally a choice 'of a factory' installation or an 'install in place'. The latter won't destroy your data. What make it simple is that all the drivers and other software are automatically installed. In my daughters case this includes Works, Encarta etc which needs a total of 7 CDs to install manually. In fact, hassle free. > as for HP support well...I can quote you lots of bad > support cases from HP and alot of big OEM,s. I've had equally bad, insome cases apalling service from small NZ shops. I think it comes down to the fact that even if you only have 1% unhappy customers tha's 100 if you sell 10000 PC's. On average an unhappy customer tells 20 people, so 2000 people know about that 1%. Most helpdesk people spend much of their time talking to people who don't know their ROM from their RAM or forgot to turn the monitor on and coundn't work out why the screen was blank. That's who they're their for. If you're an expert, why call them... fix it yourself and save time. > I don,t know of any home pc,s that are not used for gaming at some stage HP, Compaq Packhard Bell will all be suitable for gaming... but not for hardened gamers. The odd game of Age of Empires is no problem, but for super duper graphics you need a custom built PC. Amy's PC doubles as a network gaming machine quite adequetly when my friends come over for a network game of MoH or Return to Castle Wolfenstein. > as far as I know XP is XP and works exactly the same on an > HP as a Custom built pc.......and what compatability issues? Wrong. Amy's Compaq has extra, built-in help support frm the standard help screen in windows. There is also extra support software built-in to the OS. I've fixed a lot of PCs which started having trouble after the owner fiddled with the BIOS and changed something he didn't understand. Our Compaq won't let us do that so it will always function how it was designed to. Let's face it, it's not an overclockers machine. If I want to fiddle, I've got my Beast to play with. |
crozier (2004) | ||
| 97741 | 2002-11-13 20:47:00 | > I've had equally bad, insome cases apalling service > from small NZ shops. One of the main issues is, will the shop still be in existence in a year? Unfortunately for small businesses the competitive nature of the industry leads to a short life for many small shops. Then you are left with no support at all. I know many people in this situation, with no redress on warranty issues, for a "built with lowest cost parts" PC, complete with on-going incompatabilities. (probably why the businesses went under in the first place) |
godfather (25) | ||
| 97742 | 2002-11-13 23:14:00 | > HP, Compaq Packhard Bell will all be suitable for > gaming . . . but not for hardened gamers . The odd game > of Age of Empires is no problem, but for super duper > graphics you need a custom built PC . Again I will have to disagree, my HP runs all modern games fine . As a hardened gamer I have found frame rates etc fine . I will admit that I have installed a new graphics card recently but prior to that I was still able to blaze away on GTA3, MOH UT2K3 without any problems . :D In response to an earlier comment regarding a HP that has run since 1997 without reformatting, I will support this . My families first computer was a HP and has run from 1998 without reformatting, that with 6 people doing different things on it . :-) Price-wise they are more expensive, but for their reliability and stableness I think it is worth it . Cheers Veale |
Veale (536) | ||
| 97743 | 2002-11-14 02:57:00 | >Price-wise they are more expensive, but for their reliability and >stableness I think it is worth it . Sorry, have to disagree on this one, since HP doesn't make any parts, I could get the same components to have the same reliability and stableness for a lot less money . BTW without formatting your machine for so many years doesn't mean those HP PC are more stable compared to other oems, software and windows causes most crashes not hardware . If your machine keeps crashing and after format and reinstall it works fine again then it's not hardware fault is it? If HP and I uses the same parts, what is the difference apart from the big price? What makes HP more stable and reliable than mine :D ? |
SKT174 (1319) | ||
| 97744 | 2002-11-14 03:49:00 | Who said anything about it being more stable than yours, the fact that it hasn't had any problems all these years, merely shows that the all round configuration of the machine (both software and hardware) is pretty good. ;\ As for your "big" price difference, I fail to see how people justify this (apart from some components, I agree) 5 months ago I paid $2799 for a 1700+ AMD, 256mb RAM, 40gb HD, 32mb Vid card, etc, which was on par with other offers at the same time. ?:| Cheers Veale |
Veale (536) | ||
| 97745 | 2002-11-14 03:55:00 | > what is the difference apart from the big price? Where do you get the idea of the big price from? Check out the brand name packages at any store and you'll see that they are pretty good value when compared to a locally built deal . |
crozier (2004) | ||
| 97746 | 2002-11-14 03:56:00 | > As for your "big" price difference, I fail to see how > people justify this (apart from some components, I > agree) 5 months ago I paid $2799 for a 1700+ AMD, > 256mb RAM, 40gb HD, 32mb Vid card, etc, which was on > par with other offers at the same time. ?:| $2700 + GST, P4 1.8, Asus P4S533, Maxtor 40gig, Asus Geforce 4 TI4400, 256 DDR333Mhz, Aopen 32X writer, Soundblaster Live 5.1, Keyboard, Mouse, no monitor. Smaller shop, but being a friend of the owner I was able to get a kick-ass gaming machine at the time for that amount of money. Much better value than an HP IMHO... Lo. |
Lohsing (219) | ||
| 97747 | 2002-11-14 19:52:00 | Just out of interest Lohsing, Did you get a warranty with that? If so, for how long long? Cheers Veale |
Veale (536) | ||
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