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Thread ID: 27037	2002-11-12 00:20:00	Semi-OT - Maori Lego "Hacker"/Cultural Piracy	honeylaser (814)	Press F1

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
97933	2002-11-13 02:00:00	I thought imitation was the sincerest form of flattery? What amazes me is the number of times objections like this disappear when s#*tloads of money is thrown at the objectors!	write-click (2248)
97934	2002-11-13 02:04:00	> Now as a non maori am i taking the **** by importing > this small peice of maori into my personal common > use? no, if anything that sort of use should be encouraged as it enriches both languages. The way I read the article, using words that has 'spiritual importance' to the language as a childrens toy for financial gain is demeaning to his culture. and no you don't need a licence, just as Spain doesn't ask you for a licence whenever you say Tomato or Chocolate.	sam m (517)
97935	2002-11-13 02:25:00	I vaguely remember readung, recently, that Italy wanted to licence Italian restaurants around the world to ensure a consistancy of quality........	crozier (2004)
97936	2002-11-13 02:30:00	the "offending " words and their approximate english translations M=Toa E=brave bravery champion door male medallist shop stalk store victorious warrior win winner M=Mata E=area edge face heap optical plane raw screen squash surface uncooked M=Nui E=amount big important large many much plentiful quantity ratio size M=Pohatu E= (no translation) M=Whenua E=afterbirth country earth ground land M=Tohunga E=artist artistic expert expression healer priest professional proficient skilled person specialist You know what? i think most of that is pretty good concepts give to kids!!!!! .Clueless	Clueless (181)
97937	2002-11-13 06:17:00	Hi... It depends on one's meaning of imitation (unauthorized use, copying copyrighted material, theft of intellectual property, decompiling, derivatives, etc...actions that can land people, identities, & companies in court...particularly at the corporate level. I'm sure most people are not flattered if their material, identites, or idea's are imitated even if not for monetary gain (Look at the licences for most internet downloads)...partly why the courts are there. Money thrown ? Not much different from out of court payment settlements for corporates (eg. companies forced to rename brands)....	Kahawai_Chaser (166)
97938	2002-11-13 09:02:00	Tena koutou katoa Aue... give a Maori a computer and look what happens!! Hours of fun and deep thought (?) Even gets some inspired enough to consult their Maori/English dictionary... Once upon a time the taiaha may have been used to ward off an enemy... now we have "THE INTERNET". With the current rebuilding and revitalising of all things Maori that sees Maori having to implement strategies to regain that which has almost been lost, I tautoko the Maori Lego "Hacker"... yippee yi yo kai (?) yay! (Ah thank thas cowboy talk...) My gosh, how multi-lingual of moi ! Hei kona mai Dyan	Dyan (2333)
97939	2002-11-13 09:57:00	taiaha wasn't in my dictionary :( .Clueless	Clueless (181)
97940	2002-11-13 20:06:00	A taiaha is a weapon, kinda like a decorated wooden spear. www.npghs.school.nz	honeylaser (814)
97941	2002-11-13 21:59:00	I would have thought that using the language as a part of a commercial product (such as Lego) may have encouraged kids to learn more about the language/culture, etc. Seems to me that having a spazz, and making threats is not the right way to go about preserving and encouraging the use of te reo maori. Seems to me that to the "hacker", it's alright for Maori to use the language for commercial gain (go to Rotorua for any number of examples), but not for anyone else.	antmannz (28)
97942	2002-11-14 06:22:00	"I would have thought that using the language as a part of a commercial product (such as Lego) may have encouraged kids to learn more about the language/culture, etc . " Perhaps that thought is validated by personal experience, but I'd debate it wholeheartedly . . . have you ever bought a 'commercial' product/toy for a kid and then proudly observed them absorbing themselves in learning about a new culture and it's language? Has anyone? Seems the Maori Lego "Hacker" is already a legend . . . Tihei Mauriora !! Naku, na Dyan	Dyan (2333)
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