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98236	2002-11-13 01:02:00	Does anyone know where I can get hold of a list of "business email addresses" By this, I mean local shops, supermarkets etc. I want to send out some flyers advertising signage that I do. I suppose I COULD go door to door, but I thought emailing would be quicker. BALDY:-)	Baldy (26)
98237	2002-11-13 01:05:00	i look on www.yellowpages.co.nz and the ones that have listed email addresses have a lil evelope next to the business and just above phone numbers or u could try specific businesses by looking on www.whitepages.co.nz (i think this is a website) I can help find some email addresses if you want :-)	csinclair83 (200)
98238	2002-11-13 01:09:00	erm..... do you mean spam them, Baldy? ]:)	crozier (2004)
98239	2002-11-13 01:12:00	LOl i never thought of the word spam even thou i hate it.. buut..advertising for a good reason, business wise..aint spamming..or is it? i only thought spam means, sending emails to people wihtout permission on a repeated basis...	csinclair83 (200)
98240	2002-11-13 01:24:00	"Electronic junk mail or junk newsgroup postings. Some people define spam even more generally as any unsolicited e-mail" From www.webopedia.com	crozier (2004)
98241	2002-11-13 01:27:00	I would totally consider unsolicited mail in any form spam if I received it . . and it would go immediately into deleted items no matter what the content . Why not just do an old fashioned snail-mail out? I think people are far more likely to look at something bright and catchy which arrives in the mail . And it takes more effort for people to get rid of physical mail than it does to hit the delete key - so you have higher chances of getting a positive response .	honeylaser (814)
98242	2002-11-13 01:56:00	Baldy, I think that unsolicited e-mail would be a really bad way to start any business contact, i mean really bad. Sure E is a great way of sustaining contact, receiving orders, all that sort of thing, but i know that when i get it unsolicited, it just serves to get my back up. .Clueless	Clueless (181)
98243	2002-11-13 02:33:00	Thanks for the responses guys. I suppose it is in theory spam - if I sent it to a private email...... but then again, I don't consider business to business emails as spam. I class it as advertising. I have found that a brochure sent by "snail mail / post" can be equally thrown in the bin. Just trying to make a buck	Baldy (26)
98244	2002-11-13 02:40:00	Years ago when I was in marketing we assumed a 10% responce rate for a personal call, 1% responce rate for a leaflet drop. I would assume between 0.001% and 0.01% for mass email. This is why the spammers send so many.	crozier (2004)
98245	2002-11-13 02:46:00	> I suppose it is in theory spam - if I sent it to a > private email...... but then again, I don't consider > business to business emails as spam. I class it as > advertising. So do the people who send "U N I V E R S I T Y D I P L O M A" emails and "I Just Turned 18! Check Out My New Webcam!" emails. Email marketing is great, but it is a delicate process. I think you really need people to opt-in, otherwise they really don't view it as anything but unsolicited mail. > I have found that a brochure sent by "snail mail / > post" can be equally thrown in the bin. Unsolicited email I receive (whether through work or through my personal email accounts) immediately goes in the bin. Unless it is something I have asked to receive (product specials, web updates etc) I don't give it a second look. The delete key is right by my little finger. Unsolicited "junk" mail which arrives in my home mailbox gets picked out by me. I skim over it, and if anything looks interesting, I actually read it. I HATE junk mail, almost as much as I hate E-Spam, but that doesn't stop me reading it. You might also want to take into consideration how you would run a mass email out. BCC'ing may mean that you end up being filtered by Mailwasher. Using a program like ACT! or for example WFINZ Minerva Mail (http://www.minervamail.co.nz) doesn't guarantee your mail getting through either. > Just trying to make a buck Just trying to help :)	honeylaser (814)
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