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Thread ID: 27358 2002-11-20 22:03:00 OT: Webdesign, my website, enter?! Mark Veldhuizen (2570) Press F1
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100031 2002-11-21 06:40:00 <QUOTE>! THIS PAGE WILL NOT DISPLAY CORRECTLY IN 800*600. So if that applies to you, deal with it, because I am not changing it =D !<unquote>

Don't think a client or his customers would like to see this scrawled across his page!
FACT:
The majority of all web users still use 800x600, hell a large portion still use 256 colour!!
As a budding designer you must be capable of producing good looking pages for all scenarios/platforms/browsers etc.
This is what cuts the men from the boys so to speak.

So in your own words "if that applies to you, deal with it" because they aren't going to change what they are comfortable with in a hurry.

Usability or the lack of it on websites, is the quickest way to get your visitors clicking finger looking for the back button!!

Keep it up though, you're definitely heading in the right direction.

A trip here may be of some help:
www.netmechanic.com

www.pcworld.co.nz

www.iarchitect.com
Stumped Badly (348)
100032 2002-11-21 08:37:00 >FACT:
>The majority of all web users still use 800x600, hell a large portion still use 256 colour!!

But seeing i changed to a huge 19" monitor last month, doesn't that mean everyone else has got one too?

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
100033 2002-11-21 09:50:00 actually its something like 60% of people use 1024x768...that is proven on my website and some world wide internet poll, or yahoo or something

but yeah ill fix it up later :)
Mark Veldhuizen (2570)
100034 2002-11-21 10:08:00 Mmmm....you're probably right, the poll I referred to is over a year old.
Good article though & worth a read.

www.webreview.com

I've had a 19" for a couple of years now running @ 1152 x 864 & centre designed pages always look best, as they do on the 17" & 15" in the other room.
Pretty hard to keep everyone happy I admit.
But those that do seem to get the best/most work.
Stumped Badly (348)
100035 2002-11-21 12:32:00 > right hand site menus are a pain for those who speak
> english and read left to right.

actually makes more sense when you think of it. A lot of people don't have scroll wheels on their mouse and aren't in the habit of using the keyboard for a lot of things. So it actually can make the experience for a user nicer as they aren't constantly moving there mouse from left to right.

There was a reason for the layout of Dell's (http://www.dell.com) website.
-=JM=- (16)
100036 2002-11-21 19:33:00 > right hand site menus are a pain for those who speak
> english and read left to right.

Sorry tweak'e,
but the more i think about this the more i disagree. For us english speaking people, who are trained from near birth to look from left to right at a page, a right hand menu means the first thing we look at is the content of the index page, which i consider a damn fine idea myself. Surely we intend to trap the viewer before we offer them more goodys?

For a buisiness website where we may just want something deep in the site and fast, and/or if the content looks like **** a lefthand menu might be a good idea!

I've always used left hand indexes myself.. but now that i think about it, it's a logical as facing houses south for the sun, a tradition that our english ancesters carried through into many years of NZ settlement simply because.. "That is how it is done!"

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
100037 2002-11-22 00:19:00 so r u saying right hand menus r good or bad? Mark Veldhuizen (2570)
100038 2002-11-22 00:20:00 that wasnt to tweake, but the other dude b4 u Mark Veldhuizen (2570)
100039 2002-11-22 00:21:00 i mean: that wasnt to clueless, but the chap b4 him Mark Veldhuizen (2570)
100040 2002-11-22 00:36:00 Well, it kept me there for over 15 minutes before I'd realised it the other night... So something worked in your favor. I like the menu's over the right, so no prob's there, and 73% of all my visitors had 1024x768! Chilling_Silence (9)
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