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| Thread ID: 126453 | 2012-08-28 23:09:00 | Catholic Church objects to 'same sex marriage' | mzee (3324) | PC World Chat |
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| 1297589 | 2012-08-29 09:29:00 | When languages stop evolving its because they are dieing. If the spelling fetish people had their way and managed to lock the language into the form as defined by their schooling (rose tinted glasses being the crux of the matter) it would have killed it. ^^^ what he said |
globe (11482) | ||
| 1297590 | 2012-08-29 09:43:00 | funny that people percieve gayness as a male thing and assume it means this. Who said anything about males? Any pairing can ram it, ram it in the poo chute. Though when its male to male there is one less alternative. Not aimed at anyone, just a great piece of music www.youtube.com |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1297591 | 2012-08-29 10:36:00 | Give a good reason why not... and not things like "because the church says so" or "because marriage will be ruined" that is just rubbish. According to New Zealand law though, we have something known as the "burden of proof" which means the accusing party (In this case those in favour of same-sex marriage) have to prove their case, while the defending party is "innocent until proven guilty". With that in mind, according to New Zealand law, leaving something the way it is, just because that's the way it is, is a perfectly acceptable explanation. Leaves the onus on those wanting the change to prove there will be a benefit. That said, I agree with you in that aspect, and in fact Obama said something quite profound: 4168 |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1297592 | 2012-08-29 10:42:00 | Abortions should be mandatory, and dished out by Winz instead of cash. | Metla (12) | ||
| 1297593 | 2012-08-29 10:44:00 | It seems a number of people object to same sex marriage because they object to homosexuality and are using the marriage issue to protest about the other . Why else the coded references to gays not being suitable to adopt? (Most girls are abused by heterosexual men known to them - many of them probably married themselves (to women)) Why should I deny them that "wonderful" privilage and responsibility of getting married . What harm does it cause to the rest of us if they want to marry . Why do people fear that a few gay people getting married will "damage"marriage . We are doing that ourselves . - 10,000/yr divorces in nz . Havent seen any of the family first commentors demanding divorce reform . There was a time when you couldnt married a black person, a time when you could own slaves, a time when you could beat/rape your married (heterosexual) wife with impunity . A time when you could be arrested for being homosexual . Societies change . (as my grandmother is always complaining) A . |
afe66 (13778) | ||
| 1297594 | 2012-08-29 10:53:00 | It seems a number of people object to same sex marriage because they object to homosexuality and are using the marriage issue to protest about the other . . It seems a number of people just believe anything that doesn't suit them is some form of discrimination, Though I personally don't care in the slightest what any two (or more) adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms I can't see that this gives them political clout or a platform for social change . Cant use the word married?, tough ****, You're not special, You not a hero, you're just some other guys ***** . |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1297595 | 2012-08-29 11:53:00 | Let's hope it doesn't pass. They've already taken "Gay" and Rainbows. I don't want them to take Marriage. They say it doesn't affect us, but it does, it changes the meaning of Marriage and Marriage affects many. |
goodiesguy (15316) | ||
| 1297596 | 2012-08-29 11:54:00 | According to New Zealand law though, we have something known as the "burden of proof" which means the accusing party (In this case those in favour of same-sex marriage) have to prove their case, while the defending party is "innocent until proven guilty" . With that in mind, according to New Zealand law, leaving something the way it is, just because that's the way it is, is a perfectly acceptable explanation . Leaves the onus on those wanting the change to prove there will be a benefit . That said, I agree with you in that aspect, and in fact Obama said something quite profound: 4168 Why does there have to be a benefit demonstrated and to who? Quite clearly if it makes those getting wed happy then there is a benefit . Accusing party!! Jeez |
globe (11482) | ||
| 1297597 | 2012-08-29 11:57:00 | With that in mind, according to New Zealand law, leaving something the way it is, just because that's the way it is, is a perfectly acceptable explanation. Leaves the onus on those wanting the change to prove there will be a benefit. I think in this case it's probably less about proving there will be a benefit and more about proving there will be no harm... reminds me of this: 4170 That said, I agree with you in that aspect, and in fact Obama said something quite profound: 4168 Well said |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1297598 | 2012-08-29 11:59:00 | Let's hope it doesn't pass. Too late, get used to it, look at the polls and see which minority you're part of. Accept people are different and realise it ain't doing you any harm. I find gerkins disgusting but I just choose to walk past them in the supermarket |
globe (11482) | ||
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