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Thread ID: 126453 2012-08-28 23:09:00 Catholic Church objects to 'same sex marriage' mzee (3324) PC World Chat
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1297649 2012-08-31 02:13:00 So who's forcing the issue? No one made you debate about it...
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mikebartnz (21)
1297650 2012-08-31 02:31:00 The church shouldn't have a say in a political matter such as same sex marriage. The laws should reflect society as a whole, not just some of it.

Hopefully the bill passes into law as it rightfully should.

Ya see, I just cant agree with this, and I think their is also a lot of apathy from the younger generation regarding this. 15 yrs to brainwash a generation with PC BS and apathy to social morals and the foundation of the family unit.
You only have to look at how much young person respect of older people today to understand certain family values have not passed down the generations...Too many absent fathers, either by walking out or divorce etc where the child doesnt get parenting from both parents. Its not just loving parents children need, they need role models to learn from, and Adam and Steve are not able to provide that, sorry.
Look at the youngsters we have today with all the violence, out on the streets committing crime etc.....single parent families, even if they have wonderfully solo parents are always going to miss out and some issues will not be apparent until later in life...

Edit - I might add also, that this call for a law change to marriage is outrageously at the expense of the majority....Changing the fundemental meaning of the word marriage to the rights of a few....Unbelievably selfish, but thats the gay rights for you! For some reason, their wishes are more important the the majority!
SolMiester (139)
1297651 2012-08-31 02:43:00 they need role models to learn from, and Adam and Steve are not able to provide that, sorry.

Why not? www.youtube.com


Edit - I might add also, that this call for a law change to marriage is outrageously at the expense of the majority....Changing the fundemental meaning of the word marriage to the rights of a few....Unbelievably selfish, but thats the gay rights for you! For some reason, their wishes are more important the the majority!

How does it affect hetrosexual couples in any way? If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry the same gender. Simple as that. Don't deny others the right to marry who they love.
pcuser42 (130)
1297652 2012-08-31 02:49:00 How does it affect hetrosexual couples in any way? If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry the same gender. Simple as that. Don't deny others the right to marry who they love.

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lordnoddy (3645)
1297653 2012-08-31 02:51:00 How does it affect hetrosexual couples in any way? If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry the same gender. Simple as that. Don't deny others the right to marry who they love.

Why not?
Marriage is by very definition, discriminatory. You can't have two partners, you can't marry somebody under the age of 16, you can't marry your grandkids...

The amusing part is that by pushing their "non-discriminatory" perspective, they're then discriminating against married couples who want to exercise the same "right" to have a word which describes a gender-exclusive committed relationship. It's a double-edged sword.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1297654 2012-08-31 02:53:00 Ya see, I just cant agree with this, and I think their is also a lot of apathy from the younger generation regarding this. 15 yrs to brainwash a generation with PC BS and apathy to social morals and the foundation of the family unit.
You only have to look at how much young person respect of older people today to understand certain family values have not passed down the generations...Too many absent fathers, either by walking out or divorce etc where the child doesnt get parenting from both parents. Its not just loving parents children need, they need role models to learn from, and Adam and Steve are not able to provide that, sorry.
Look at the youngsters we have today with all the violence, out on the streets committing crime etc.....single parent families, even if they have wonderfully solo parents are always going to miss out and some issues will not be apparent until later in life...

Edit - I might add also, that this call for a law change to marriage is outrageously at the expense of the majority....Changing the fundemental meaning of the word marriage to the rights of a few....Unbelievably selfish, but thats the gay rights for you! For some reason, their wishes are more important the the majority!
Well put.
mikebartnz (21)
1297655 2012-08-31 02:55:00 you can't marry somebody under the age of 16

People under the age of 16 IMO aren't ready to marry anyway...


you can't marry your grandkids...

You can't marry family in general, and this makes sense really (although as far as I know sexual acts between two consenting people is fine).


The amusing part is that by pushing their "non-discriminatory" perspective, they're then discriminating against married couples who want to exercise the same "right" to have a word which describes a gender-exclusive committed relationship. It's a double-edged sword.

How are they discriminating? Doesn't make much sense to me...
pcuser42 (130)
1297656 2012-08-31 02:59:00 Why not? www.youtube.com



How does it affect hetrosexual couples in any way? If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry the same gender. Simple as that. Don't deny others the right to marry who they love.

PCuser, im not sure how old you are, but Im guessing your are under 25...Their are many many things in life that you dont realise or understand, or they will mean something different to you when you are older. I hope this is why you cant seem to understand the Adam & Steve cant teach Jr how to interact with the opposite sex through good times and bad..
Yes, I have seen the video, seems to think one outcome is the measure of all, but once again, this kid is under 25, his life is only just beginning on his own to feet, there is no guarantee there or otherwise as to how he will interact with partners later in life....

Marriage, how will gay marriage effect me?, it wont effect me, but marriage is the foundation of our society..Even nowadays 2 guys cant go anywhere together without sideways questioning glances...Children need to know where and how they come from, quite a bit to explain to kids without putting gay issues in there as well.

This gay marriage law is but a pathway, they already have as many rights as a married couple with their civil unions, but marriage will automatically by law put them in the picture for adoption. We already have enough parent-less couples out there without introducing gay couples to the table.

I really dont care what adults do in their own home as long as they keep it there, but when children are concerned, and we dont have that much data about these children in the future to risk it for the sake of some gay couples idea of their rights over and above that of childrens rights.
SolMiester (139)
1297657 2012-08-31 03:01:00 People under the age of 16 IMO aren't ready to marry anyway...

You can't marry family in general, and this makes sense really (although as far as I know sexual acts between two consenting people is fine).

How are they discriminating? Doesn't make much sense to me...

...but that's *just* your opinion, either way you're still discriminating against them because those examples of people can't marry, right?!
Chilling_Silence (9)
1297658 2012-08-31 03:02:00 I may only be 19 but what you seem to be doing there is discarding my input simply because of my age? :illogical pcuser42 (130)
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