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Thread ID: 126400	2012-08-24 23:42:00	Verdict in Apple vs Samsung	GameJunkie (72)	PC World Chat

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1296900	2012-08-28 01:39:00	www.reuters.com	zqwerty (97)
1296901	2012-08-28 03:33:00	cell-phones.tradetang.com Although the Galaxy S has been shrunk a little in the image, it's still pretty damn similar even from a hardware perspective. Imagine them with the screen off... Believe me, I know, I've owned BOTH devices for over 9 months each. Front on they are very damn similar. Well, yes, granted. They both have a screen and are shaped like a rectangle, so I suppose they are similar. Doesn't make me think the design was copied though. What's damning to me in that photo is with the screens being on - the icons with the box around them do look copied, and I have no beef with Samsung being done for that generation of TouchWiz	Nick G (16709)
1296902	2012-08-28 04:07:00	Well, yes, granted. They both have a screen and are shaped like a rectangle, so I suppose they are similar. Doesn't make me think the design was copied though. What's damning to me in that photo is with the screens being on - the icons with the box around them do look copied, and I have no beef with Samsung being done for that generation of TouchWizIf that doesnt make you think Samsung copied, maybe the Samsung emails that say let's copy apple might convince you. Google it	plod (107)
1296903	2012-08-28 04:18:00	If that doesnt make you think Samsung copied, maybe the Samsung emails that say let's copy apple might convince you. Google it I think Samsung's software (only for that generation of touchwiz) copied Apple. I do not think that having device shaped like a rectangle with a screen on the front means samsung copied apple. Oh, and to rule out bias - I have an iPod touch 4th gen, NO samsung product.	Nick G (16709)
1296904	2012-08-28 05:02:00	cell-phones.tradetang.com Although the Galaxy S has been shrunk a little in the image, it's still pretty damn similar even from a hardware perspective. Imagine them with the screen off... Believe me, I know, I've owned BOTH devices for over 9 months each. Front on they are very damn similar. Dammit Chill I was about to post this: photos.appleinsider.com specifically the top 2 phones, the other two (esp. the one on the bottom left) don't have that blatant chrome/metal rimming that the Galaxy S does.	icow (15313)
1296905	2012-08-28 05:11:00	[Update: Complete device-by-device breakdown, jury instructions added] Samsung planning various arguments for its appeal Seriously Replenish ( . cellphoneaccents . com/productpics/big/samsung-galaxy-replenish-trans-clear-snap-on-protector-case-faceplate90207 . jpg" target="_blank">www . cellphoneaccents . com) . . . . . . . . . . . 3,350,256 Blackberry like keyboard and no TouchWiz . . . hmmm, what have they been smoking? And 4G phones, like Apple has any 4G capable phones?? 4158 . com/2012/08/26/samsung-planning-various-arguments-for-its-appeal/" target="_blank">phandroid . com Captivate . . . . . . . . . . 80,840,162 Continuum . . . . . . . . . . 16,399,117 Droid Charge . . . . . . . . . 50,672,869 Epic 4G . . . . . . . . . . . 130,180,894 Exhibit 4G . . . . . . . . . . 1,081,820 Fascinate . . . . . . . . . . 143,539,179 Galaxy Ace . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 Galaxy Prevail . . . . . . . . 57,867,383 Galaxy S . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 Galaxy S 4G . . . . . . . . . 73,344,668 Galaxy S II (AT&T) . . . . . . 40,494,356 Galaxy S II (i9000) . . . . . . . . . . 0 Galaxy S II (T-Mobile) . . . . 83,791,708 Galaxy S II (Epic 4G Touch) . 100,326,988 Galaxy S II (Skyrocket) . . . 32,273,558 Galaxy S (Showcase) . . . . . 22,002,146 Galaxy Tab . . . . . . . . . . 1,966,691 Galaxy Tab 10 . 1 WiFi . . . . . . 833,076 Galaxy Tab 10 . 1 4G LTE . . . . . . . . 0 Gem . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,075,585 Indulge . . . . . . . . . . . 16,011,184 Infuse 4G . . . . . . . . . . 44,792,974 Intercept . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 Mesmerize . . . . . . . . . . 53,123,612 Nexus S 4G . . . . . . . . . . 1,828,297 Replenish . . . . . . . . . . . 3,350,256 Transform . . . . . . . . . . . . 953,060 Vibrant . . . . . . . . . . . 89,673,957 TOTAL . . . . . . . . . . . 1,049,423,540 Total, removing the damages for the above devices…………… . . $251,873,686 . That is $797,549,854 less than the initial damages . Update 2: The following excerpt is from the jury instructions that can be found here . groklaw . net/pdf3/ApplevSamsung-1903 . pdf" target="_blank">www . groklaw . net The amount of those damages must be adequate to compensate the patent holder for the infringement . A damages award should put the patent holder in approximately the financial position it would have been in had the infringement not occurred, but in no event may the damages award be less than a reasonable royalty .	Geek4414 (12000)
1296906	2012-08-28 05:17:00	Dammit Chill I was about to post this: photos.appleinsider.com specifically the top 2 phones, the other two (esp. the one on the bottom left) don't have that blatant chrome/metal rimming that the Galaxy S does. IIRC, that was from Apple's evidence. Meaning they picked Samsung devices that looked least like the iPhone to show in the 'before' section. Credibility = none.	Nick G (16709)
1296907	2012-08-28 05:20:00	1960s Braun Products Hold the Secrets to Apple’s Future . com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future" target="_blank">gizmodo . com 4161416041594162 4163	Geek4414 (12000)
1296908	2012-08-28 05:21:00	Haha i like the Galaxy Ace........0, thats pretty much what they are	Gobe1 (6290)
1296909	2012-08-28 05:31:00	IIRC, that was from Apple's evidence . Meaning they picked Samsung devices that looked least like the iPhone to show in the 'before' section . Credibility = none . Yes . . . Magical RDF in action . . . cherry picking things to hide some facts, why are we not surprised? 4164 . com/tech-policy/2012/08/samsungs-argument-that-it-didnt-copy-the-iphone-and-ipad-in-pictures/" target="_blank">arstechnica . com	Geek4414 (12000)
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