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1469399 2020-06-08 23:24:00 McAfee isnt that bad any more . Its not the same as when it was at its worst . Or it could also be PC's are now fast enough to run it :)
McAfee was bought out by IBM, then IBM found McAfee's bad reputation made it worthless as a brand . Intel still own a large % of it.
1101 (13337)
1469400 2020-06-11 03:49:00 Well after 20 years, odd, I think I finally removed Comodo & now use Microstuffs offereing.
I think I noticed its seems a lot faster & boot up about a minute quicker.
Still not sure about ther offering & was woundering if you can do a manual scan?
Ian
ianhnz (4263)
1469401 2020-06-11 04:08:00 Well after 20 years, odd, I think I finally removed Comodo & now use Microstuffs offereing.
I think I noticed its seems a lot faster & boot up about a minute quicker.
Still not sure about ther offering & was woundering if you can do a manual scan?
Ian Yep you can scan manually all you do is open the security window ( from the Icon Tray) Select Virus and Threat protection - Click either Quick Scan or under that Scan option and change to what you wish.
wainuitech (129)
1469402 2020-06-11 04:08:00 yes, bottom right corner , double click the (hidden) shield icon , go to virus & threat protection

or do a (local) Win search for antivirus

edit : WT answered as I was typing answer :-)
1101 (13337)
1469403 2020-06-11 05:09:00 It's a tricky subject, a lot of products that get great reviews end up being a horrible user experience for some and other products that everyone says to avoid seem to work perfectly fine for a lot of people (although how effective they are is still a question). Also it seems like some of the retail products like McAffee and Nortons might be worse that their commercial offerings that some large companies use. As an example my previous employer was using a very old version of McAffee that was still fully supported and getting updates despite being much older than the retail versions that had stopped getting updates.

Anyway that's a bit of a sidetrack sorry. Personally I use free tools and some common sense and do ok, with a backup plan of starting from scratch if it all goes wrong :) So for me it's just windows built in defender with an occasional scan from the free Esset online scanner and the free version of MBAM.

A few years ago I got a 1 year free Kaspersky license with a motherboard and after reading some reviews that suggested it was in the top 3 antvirus products at the time I gave it a go. Just horrible. Slowed down all my internet browsing very noticeably with any links I clicked having a very long delay before anything started to visibly happen. Since then I have very little trust in antivirus reviews online.

Nod32 has been getting a lot of good mentions on this site for years. If I was going to pay for something I'd go that way myself.
dugimodo (138)
1469404 2020-06-11 05:19:00 The Win 10 inbuilt Defender plus common sense appears to be perfectly fine. I do run NOD32 on one system and it has never given a problem it has also never picked up anything either so I will probably drop it when my subscription runs out. CliveM (6007)
1469405 2020-06-11 05:41:00 yes, bottom right corner , double click the (hidden) shield icon , go to virus & threat protection

or do a (local) Win search for antivirus

edit : WT answered as I was typing answer :-)

Thanks, that worked
ianhnz (4263)
1469406 2020-06-11 05:46:00 Thanks for the info.
I've been using Comodo vor a long, long time & had no problem.
My computer packed up, under warrenty befor the lock down & our computer guy gace me a desk top that he worked on.
SSD, backup drive & heused it for a while, until level 3.
Since then I was getting BSD nearly every morning so he come arounf yesterday & said he has had computers with Comodo have same problems.
He removed it & some freeware I had and since then been good, but early days.
ianhnz (4263)
1469407 2020-06-11 06:08:00 It's a tricky subject, a lot of products that get great reviews end up being a horrible user experience for some and other products that everyone says to avoid seem to work perfectly fine for a lot of people .

I suspect the reviewers dont use the product long term . They will also not want to give negative reviews to advertisers or sponsors products .
A lack of long term real world testing on multiple PC's will never give accurate results .
Thats why so many here like NOD32 . Weve installed it on hundreds of PC's and its proven to be very good product (not perfect) .

On the other hand , you'll get some PC/IT companies that install only the 1 AV product, despite their tech staff complaining about how bad it is .
Ive had that, FORCED to sell a AV product that was the worst AV ever , really bad . Even the reviews gave it 30% detection rate (yes it was that bad) . A friend in IT was also forced to sell
another poorly performing AV product as company policy .

Then you get the Laptop manufactures who preload 30day trials of McAfee or Norton (disabling WIns built in AV) . The real issue is when the 30day trial expires , they are left with AV that will never update .
So obviously Those laptop manufactures dont give a rats arse about customers security .
(sorry, Im ranting)
1101 (13337)
1469408 2020-06-11 21:46:00 I suspect the reviewers dont use the product long term. They will also not want to give negative reviews to advertisers or sponsors products .
A lack of long term real world testing on multiple PC's will never give accurate results.
Thats why so many here like NOD32. Weve installed it on hundreds of PC's and its proven to be very good product (not perfect).

On the other hand , you'll get some PC/IT companies that install only the 1 AV product, despite their tech staff complaining about how bad it is.
Ive had that, FORCED to sell a AV product that was the worst AV ever , really bad. Even the reviews gave it 30% detection rate (yes it was that bad) . A friend in IT was also forced to sell
another poorly performing AV product as company policy .

Then you get the Laptop manufactures who preload 30day trials of McAfee or Norton (disabling WIns built in AV). The real issue is when the 30day trial expires , they are left with AV that will never update.
So obviously Those laptop manufactures dont give a rats arse about customers security.
(sorry, Im ranting)

Thanks for the info & I think you are quite right in what you say.
Years ago I tried Panda antivirus.
What you guys think of that?
Panda Free AntivirusI have the paid version of Malwarebytes, that thats taken care ofPanda Free AntivirusPanda Free Antivirus
ianhnz (4263)
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