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101562 2002-11-26 18:01:00 Both use the internet now. At this age they simply click on the links that I put in their favourites. They can't read or write so they can't go searching (ie google). I am in the process of organising a 2nd computer just for them. This computer will be networked to mine and will be positioned side by side. By the time they are at your age (or thereabouts) then is the time I would take action similar to your fathers, or by that time there will probably be something out there (maybe a programme you developed) that will keep them safe but ensure they have privacy.

thanks for the dialogue

sam m
sam m (517)
101563 2002-11-26 19:58:00 I'm a holiday Dad,
When my own son (11) uses the net here, i simply wander in and out of the office and have an awareness of what he is doing.. and it's all pretty harmless to (so far).

I think at this age if he stumbled across a porn site, he would just screww his face up and say OOo yukky (when he came into the bedroom one morning and saw me and better½ cuddling naked he did just that)
Anyway that is just a guess, and i assume that with puberty being just round the corner that will change rapidly, and he'll want to know all about girls, naughty bits, and all that sort of thing.

I'm not going to rely on filters, and if he does find his way to pictures of girls and naughty bits i will have to explain that what he is seeing is silicon filled made up actresses, real people have real bodys with flaws and all, and that sex is an act of passion between 2 people who feel alot for eachother (in therie)...

At some point i expect i will have to try to get those sort of concepts accross anyway. Chances are it wont be internet porn that brings up the issues

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
101564 2002-11-26 21:46:00 Very well put! I've never been interested in that sort of thing... Just hit the close button when something does come up (As happens from time to time) and that's that, I'll go on with my surfing, but If I know the domain for that URL (Like MrNews.com) then I'll try to avoid that place.. Generally you can just forget about it.

IM - I hate it when anybody tries to read it.. Being a teenager, your peers tell you stuff hoping tat they can trust you with not letting anybody else know whats going on in their world, for fear of embarrasement, rejection, or anything like that. Privicay is needed from time to time.

As for key-logging. I've done it myself from time to time. A friend of mine suspected his father was lookin up porn in the middle of the night, and asked me how he'd check, and if found out to be true, how would his dad get help. He knew his mother would be pleased.
I told him how he could set it up to take a screenshot after a certain time, and also when certain keywords were entered.
He found his dad was getting up to naughty business.. and offered him help. His father hasnt done anything like that since.

So monitoring is good sometimes, but not just for the heck of it. If you sincerely suspect that something might be going on, then I'd say itd be alright, but just to catch up on the latest gossip between your kids and their friends is wrong. IMHO @ least!

I believe that being pro-active is good too. Before we first got the internet (4 years ago), my parents discussed with me the pornographc implications of the internet (As i was the driving force behind out family getting it). I knew it was out there, but they learned to trust that I was not going to go hunting it out, and if I happened to come across it accidentally that I wouldnt be punished, but that they would appreciate me talkign to them about it and how I might further avoid it. They did however say that If I did go hunting it out, then they'd simply phone up the ISP and cancel the account (Not realising there is free internet providers, but thats beside the point). I never went looking for it. I've come across it in my travels as most possibly have, but I just quikly leave the site. Clicking the Home button is the best solution usually (Provided it appears quickly - like google, but not XtraMSN).

Thats my two cents worth.

Cheers


Chilling_Silence
Chilling_Silence (9)
101565 2002-11-26 21:53:00 Another thing that just came to me.

Have any of you been watching music videos lately, or listened to the words in some of the songs on the hit-parade (yeah, yeah I'm in a time warp)

I think its more insidious than chat rooms on the net. Do you want to let your kids listen to songs about "killing your mama"

BALDY:-)
Baldy (26)
101566 2002-11-26 21:58:00 If you listen to the words of Cleaning Out My Closet - His "momma" was no momma and had been diagnosed with an illness where they make the child believe they are sick, and constantly treat them as sick. I dont know all the details, but yes, you are right.. Hot In Here - Do a search for lyrics by nelly.
There is a lot out there that this world is exposed to, and I'm right in the middle of it. but in saying that, a lot of new pmusic being put out isnt that bad. Jenny from the block doesnt seem to have any adverse themes.
That's a good point there...
Chilling_Silence (9)
101567 2002-11-26 22:22:00 I think the point is that as much as we may try to protect our kids from the world, we cannot keep them in a plastic bubble all thier lives . . and our parental responcibility is to guide when they find something new . There is only so much we can do to keep "bad" stuff away . I'm not saying just let them go for it here, but facing the fact that theyre going to meet it sooner or later and net-smut, although easy to blame is going to be one of the least of our worries .

Just like the net in real life theres a bad bad world out there, and a really cool one too!

I think it depends mainly on the outlook we choose to have, and nurture in our kids . Most of what we stummble on in life is based on where we look .

. Clueless
Clueless (181)
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