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Thread ID: 27901 2002-12-06 01:34:00 OT confusion over copyright. Clueless (181) Press F1
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103638 2002-12-06 01:34:00 I have been told that when a work gets old enough it falls intp the public domain. The example being the works of Beethoven.

Is this true and what period of time is involved here?

I have heard, possible falsely that it is 20 years, if this was true classic monty python would be copyright free!!!

Any comment from someone who knows what they are talking about?

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
103639 2002-12-06 01:40:00 The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) treaty generally has 50 years after the death of the artist, but local legislations can differ and override this.

But don't quote me...
godfather (25)
103640 2002-12-06 01:42:00 Does this mean that all Buddy Holly songs (he died in 1959, by memory) will be public domain in 2009? crozier (2004)
103641 2002-12-06 02:30:00 Maybe. The US Government has been bribed to extend the copyright on Mickey Mouse and all the other Disney characters past the ?50 years after Disney's death. They'll probably treat all copyright "breaches" as terrorism, ansd send out the B52s. So watch out, all you downloaders. Graham L (2)
103642 2002-12-06 02:30:00 Did Buddy Holly write his own songs or was there a writer? Would make a difference. Heather P (163)
103643 2002-12-06 02:42:00 >They'll probably treat all copyright "breaches" as terrorism, ansd send out the B52s

I read somewhare that the average American has lousy geography - the won't even know where NZ is ;)

>>Did Buddy Holly write his own songs or was there a writer? Would make a difference.

I'm a subcribe to the fact that Buddy was the true King of Rock & Roll. One reason I've always used for this view is that Buddy Holly & The Crickets wrote their own music while Elvis never wrote a note.
crozier (2004)
103644 2002-12-06 02:54:00 The area of (c) Copyright in New Zealand is worse than tip toeing through a mine field............They polies were supposed to be cleaning it up but waht progress they ever made I don't know.

Basically copyright is 50 years from the death or the NZ artist / author, whether it is also 50 years from the death of for those artists / authors that were not New Zealanders I am unsure so whether Buddy Holly would be copyright free after 50 years, probably not but any photographs that are copyrighted against my name would be copyright free 50 years after my death.
duckyduck (197)
103645 2002-12-06 21:14:00 > The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)
> treaty generally has 50 years after the death of the
> artist, but local legislations can differ and
> override this.
>
> But don't quote me...

I have a feeling that it's 50 years after the death of the copyright holder... so this doesn't help when copyright is held by a recording company or such...

Mike.
Mike (15)
103646 2002-12-06 21:30:00 What about when say its SOLD to a third party.

EG: Wacko Jacko owning the Beatles songs

I think that stuff like Buddy Holly will be owned by someone like the "Buddy Holly Foundation" or similar
Baldy (26)
103647 2002-12-07 03:53:00 Could be wrong, but I think Paul McCartney bought the rights to Holly's material.

Crozier: I'm a big fan of Buddy Holly -- can just remember him from before he died. I'm trying to buy everything he recorded, and have 12 CDs. Also two excellent biographies. Hoping the CD of his two LPs "Holly in the Hills" and "Giant" will arrive in NZ soon -- it was released in the States in August. That will give me 17 of his tracks that I don't have.
Deebee (1184)
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