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103320 2002-12-04 21:30:00 Is this easy to do (simply plug in and go?)

I suspect not as I keep hearing about slaves and masters etc etc.

Is there a site that gives decent detail. My plan is to remove a small HDD from an old computer and transfer to a slightly newer one to preserve Mum and Dad's data (and possibly their OS)

Thanks
Shroeder (492)
103321 2002-12-04 21:38:00 Physically installing a hard drive is very easy. But backing up the data is a bit more complicated. There are various programs such as Ghost which will transfer everything (data and OS) to the new drive. I also remeber my seagate drive came with softward that transferred everything to the new drive. I'll see if I can find a site that'll help you. crozier (2004)
103322 2002-12-04 21:50:00 For details on installing a heard drive checkput www.mysuperpc.com

The software I mentioned above was seatools (I think) which appears to be downloadable from this site: www.seagate.com I used tit on a friends PC once (without a seagate drive) and it worked perfectly.
crozier (2004)
103323 2002-12-04 22:56:00 What I would do is to type : 'how to install a hard drive' into Google and you will come up with lots of sites telling yopu how to do it.

Your problem may well be the age of the computer, especially if there is no hdd auto detect. ( Mind you that is getting pretty old).
In any case go into the CMOS setup, ie the "BIOS" and write down what the current hard drive settings are, eg number of heads, cylinders etc, just in case the details are different to what auto detect (if any) will give. Make sure these settings are used subsequently.

Older computers have older BIOSs which wont recognise newer larger hard drives, that is something you will have to live with.

So:
1). Mug up on CMOS settings and how to do it.

2). Read up about setting master and slave.

3). Read up about partitioning and formatting.

4). Read up on installing an operating system and/or transfering a system over from one drive to another.

There is info in the FAQS at the top of the page on how to do some of this. Otherwise a Google search will reveal all :)

5). Read up on how to physically install and connect up.

I think it better for you to find out this way by doing your own research, then come back if you get stuck on any points.
Terry Porritt (14)
103324 2002-12-05 03:06:00 Hi.. i'm not sure why people are going on about moving the operating system, like you said you are adding a second drive..

Basicly when you open up the box you will see a wide flat cable or 2 going from mother board to hdds and cd rom etc. Each of these IDE cables can support 2 drives, one is the master, one is the second or slave. On the back of the HDDs is a set of jumpers which can be used to set weather these are the master or the slave drives. If there is a spare plug on the cable that is running the exsisting drive plug the new one in on that. windows will see the second drive as "D" (drive 1= master drive 2 = slave)

You may have to tell the bios about the exsistance of the second brive, but setting it to auto-detect for that drive *should* give you the specs.

I may as well say at this point that i am being very general as i do not know exactly what you are putting into what, therefore there is no point in trying to provide detail.

You may have to put it on the second IDE cable as the first one may allready be full with CD rom and C drive you may also have to buy new cables as there is still a few single IDE cables around, which do not have the second connector for the second drive.

Details on what you have in mind please!

.CLueless
Clueless (181)
103325 2002-12-05 03:38:00 >My plan is to remove a small HDD from an old computer and transfer to a slightly newer one to preserve Mum and Dad's data (and possibly their OS)

>>i'm not sure why people are going on about moving the operating system

Sorry Clueless, it looks to me as though he wants to remove the existing HDD after transfering data (and possibly the OS)

Geez Louise, you really are clueless aren't you / ;) ;) :p
crozier (2004)
103326 2002-12-05 04:14:00 *mental note: must not skimread a post whilst on phone1 and ignoring phone 2 ringing and THEN reply*

Yes your right crozier... but hey.. i got a name with a built in disclaimer!

Apart from that er... oversight, i hope the post offers some help, but more details please ( i promise to read them this time)

Counterclaim Louise and i are entirely differant people!

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
103327 2002-12-05 09:24:00 Hi...

I read on the internet that two drives can increase heat output (don't know of the effects)...there is a installation guide in www.PCWorld.com (with pictures)...then click search for hard drive...

Cheers
Kahawai_Chaser (166)
103328 2002-12-05 09:54:00 Terry

regards your comments on old hard drives

I have an old 486 laptop (1991 era) I'm playing around with and despite my efforts can't get it to detect the hard drive

drives are 1-46 and 47 is different

I have tried installing different HD numbers in CMOS yet don't know what was the proper one

I go to autdetect hard drive and it is still not detecting....although in CMOS HDD is installed!!!

another thing it has a stoned virus - and it keeps asking for the boot disk (floppy) - although I don't think the virus has anything to do with it do you?


thanks
artpepper (1321)
103329 2002-12-05 10:27:00 Hello art, I should be a bit careful with your floppies, having a stoned virus around. It infects the boot sector / mbr.

That will be the thing to get rid of first. One way is to have a clean write protected floppy with a dos operating system on it and fdisk, and use fdisk /mbr to hopefully remove the virus from the Master Boot Record on the hard drive. If the backup MBR is also Stoned then this method wont work! Be aware it will infect floppies that are not write protected until the hard disk is cleared.

I use F-Prot dos based AV write protected disks to disinfect hard and floppy drives in these situations, though Ive only had to do it a few times on friends computers. You should clean any floppies you may have put in the machine before it spreads to your main computer.

If that hard drive had been in a desktop, I'd have suggested hooking it into another to see if it would be detected, and checking that the details are the same as in the bios for the machine it is in.
Terry Porritt (14)
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