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Thread ID: 126529	2012-09-03 00:19:00	Outsourcing ! Unbelievable!	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
1298483	2012-09-03 00:19:00	Hi guys We all know about outsourcing. Getting projects done overseas by low cost countries. SEO, Programming, tooling, production etc But yesterday I got a nice email from a Chinese printing company offering to do brochures and stationary for me. They are either getting desperate over there, or maybe its a sign of things to come ?	Digby (677)
1298484	2012-09-03 00:26:00	I hope they spell "stationery" correctly.	gradebdan (2186)
1298485	2012-09-03 00:38:00	He he Yes its stationely in Chinese Turn Left Light here.	Digby (677)
1298486	2012-09-03 01:02:00	Ohhh! Steleotypes...witty.	KarameaDave (15222)
1298487	2012-09-03 02:11:00	And now the government is looking at storing some of our data in the cloud. I assume what that means is that they will use virtual software and servers overseas, and therefore they will not need NZ IT departments. Saving them millions and costing more jobs ?	Digby (677)
1298488	2012-09-03 03:06:00	And now the government is looking at storing some of our data in the cloud. I assume what that means is that they will use virtual software and servers overseas, and therefore they will not need NZ IT departments. Saving them millions and costing more jobs ? Actually, outsourcing will help us. It is not a bad thing that is hurting the economy, but a good thing that is helping the economy.	Nick G (16709)
1298489	2012-09-03 03:28:00	Actually, outsourcing will help us. It is not a bad thing that is hurting the economy, but a good thing that is helping the economy. I think you need to explain what you mean a little better there.	mikebartnz (21)
1298490	2012-09-03 03:36:00	I think you need to explain what you mean a little better there. Well, you asked for it then :D First off, outsourcing allows us to buy cheaper products, which is good for the consumer. However, if people want to buy 'NZ made' they can, it will just cost more, which is what you'd expect. So, outsourcing gives us the option of buying cheaper goods, but we still have choice. I think you'd agree that that is good for the consumer at least. However, there are also the producers. Outsourcing allows us to improve in that area as well. Buy outsourcing what can be done cheaper overseas, we are allowing ourselves to specialize in what we can produce cheaper here. And we can always produce some goods at a lower comparative cost that other countries, even if the absolute cost is higher; its called comparative advantage.	Nick G (16709)
1298491	2012-09-03 04:08:00	Well, you asked for it then :D First off, outsourcing allows us to buy cheaper products, which is good for the consumer. However, if people want to buy 'NZ made' they can, it will just cost more, which is what you'd expect. So, outsourcing gives us the option of buying cheaper goods, but we still have choice. I think you'd agree that that is good for the consumer at least. However, there are also the producers. Outsourcing allows us to improve in that area as well. Buy outsourcing what can be done cheaper overseas, we are allowing ourselves to specialize in what we can produce cheaper here. And we can always produce some goods at a lower comparative cost that other countries, even if the absolute cost is higher; its called comparative advantage. Well done. There are two factors which you don't take into account when looking at the picture of NZ as a whole and they are Outsourcing will generally render some unemployed which becomes a cost the tax payers have to shoulder. So while the goods may be cheaper the cost to a degree are just transferred. It puts a greater burden on our overseas exchange which can mean we end up with a greater debt burden. You just need to look at the USA to see what has happened there.	mikebartnz (21)
1298492	2012-09-03 04:22:00	We simply cant 'close the gate' & not outsource. Its a global economy. NZ has to compete on price if it wants these LOW PAYING jobs You mention the US I'll say look at Russia & NZ & UK in the 70's.Tarrifs, protectionism & import bans Didnt help them at all . Anyone remember our 18% inflation rate? or the Wage & price freeze ? Yes protectionism, for a tiny economy really was doomed to fail. Artificially protecting local industry is never a long term solution & can only end in tears.	1101 (13337)
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