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105401 2002-12-12 08:37:00 I've just set up a P2P network across my 3 computers.

All are running W/98SE.

Computer 1 is a PI 120, Computer 2 a PIII 550, Computer 3 a laptop.

All computers can access the internet using a shared ADSL line.

From 1 I can access the C: drive of 2 and 3.

From 2 I can access the C: drive of 1 and 3.

When I try to open network neighborhood on 3 (the laptop) it takes ages (at least 5 mins) then finds 'Entire Network'. When I try to expand this it thinks about it again for a while then replies with 'Unable to Browse Network'.

I've tried disabling the firewall (McAfee) but with no success.

The cables, network cards etc seem to work as I access the internet and can be shared to this laptop. Only problem seems to be the sharing from.

Can anyone help?
ZlatyB (2758)
105402 2002-12-12 08:57:00 1. Check your network settings.
Start; Settings; Control Panel; Network
and ensure "Share folders and printers" is selected.

2. Make sure there IS something to share.
On each computer open Windows Explorer, select a folder, right click and select Sharing

3. If you have a login box pop up when starting computer make sure you don't press "cancel"
Heather P (163)
105403 2002-12-12 09:13:00 Thanks Heather, but...

1. Share folders and printers is selected.

2. There IS something to share on each computer

3. I don't press "cancel" when the login box appears
ZlatyB (2758)
105404 2002-12-12 17:58:00 Hey

Make sure that your using exactly the same network protocols on the laptop as one and two (eg: another protocol isn't installed) as this is the same problem I had.
Start > Settings >Control Panel > Network
All protocols are listed in there


CyberChuck
cyberchuck (173)
105405 2002-12-13 08:08:00 Unfortunately that appears to have made things worse...

Laptop didn't have IPX/SPX compatible protocol, the others did.

Tried installing IPX/SPX on laptop, but my W98SE disk didn't have the files required (nwblink.vxb).

Resorted to removing this from all (found a posting which said that this protocol was related to Netware so wasn't needed anyway).

Now 2 desktops can see Laptop but not each other. Laptop can see neither desktop.

Help!
ZlatyB (2758)
105406 2002-12-13 08:30:00 Hey

Sorry about that...

Remove IPX/SPX from all your computers as it's only needed by old games for Multiplayer.. This should fix your problem - infact I would reccomend a TCP/IP Only network (this is what I have at home) and my friends have it - works fine


Cyberchuck ?:|
cyberchuck (173)
105407 2002-12-13 08:35:00 I have removed it - TCP/IP is the only protocol on all machines now. ZlatyB (2758)
105408 2002-12-13 09:02:00 But has this fixed your problem?
If not, look at the "advanced" options of your network card in "network settings"
Play around wit the Media type, changing it from 100 half/duplex etc, then down to 10 full/half duplex, until you find a setting that allows you to transfer files with some relative speed.

Because im guessing at the moment, if you were to go to one of your other computers and send something to your laptop it would go at normal speed, however the other way around it doesn't. This is all to do with the settings i have mentioned
roofus (483)
105409 2002-12-13 09:40:00 First off - protocols.
Each protocol is a language. To get 2 computers to talk to each other they need to use the same language.

(An example: if TCP/IP = French and Netbuei = Russian then installing French on one machine and Russian on the other is guaranteed to cause confusion and lack of communication).

The protocols have evolved over time - Netbuei was one of the first, the SPX one was developed specifically for Novell. The most common one in use today is TCP/IP as this is the protocol used for the web.

If you only use TCP/IP then they are all talking the same language.

Second off - adaptors and protocols.
You will have one or more adaptors installed on each machine (Control Panel; Network) and a protocol assigned to each adaptor.

At it's simplist the list should read:
- Client for Microsoft Network
- xxx NIC (where xxx is the type of card and NIC = Network Interface Card - the Network card)
- TCP/IP ->xxx NIC
- File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Network

It may also pay to check that the "Primary Network Login" is the same on all machines.

Now go to the next tab - Identification
Check that the computers are in the same Workgroup. The default is the word "WORKGROUP"
Heather P (163)
105410 2002-12-13 10:08:00 ipx/spx is my prefered protocol for lans (its fast, easier to setup and tends to be less problematic than tcp/ip for win98) if you can get it installed on all 3 pc's then you just have to set the frame type and set the same network address for each. then put the tick in "netbios over ipx/spx". in tcp/ip settings untick the file and print sharing binding. this helps make windows use ipx/spx for file and print shareing.

handy site (www.wown.info)
tweak'e (174)
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