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Thread ID: 28390 2002-12-18 02:46:00 Win98 home network problem discus (2802) Press F1
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107152 2002-12-18 02:46:00 I've read through the Networking FAQ and have tried everything there and I still have a problem with my network. Here is where it is at : two Win98 (not Second Edition) PCs, two new DSE fast ethernet cards, a crossover cable. I have set up with static IP addresses. PC1 is the main PC that has a printer attached, etc and is set as the Browse Master. Network Neighbourhood looks great on this PC - both PCs are listed. That indicates to me that something is working properly. PC2 is a different story. No PCs are listed under Network Neighbourhood, therefore the network itself is not accessible / available. Neither PC can successfully ping each other. Net diag does not work either. I don't have Netbeui installed at the moment - trying to perservere with TCP/IP. PC1 has ZoneAlarm installed but I have set it up to allow PC2 access, etc and have also shut it down completely to try get this problem sorted out. All I am trying to achieve is that PC2 has access to the printer on PC1 and that both PCs have access to the hard drive on the other PC. There is no device conflict. Both PCs are setup with the same Workgroup Name and different Computer Names. Both PCs are setup with File Sharing and sharing has been set on for the printer and the hard drives on both PCs.
I swapped the cards over last night to see whether one was not working but it made no difference. Also borrowed another crossover cable which works on my friend's PC and that made no difference either.

Any ideas on what else to try?
discus (2802)
107153 2002-12-18 02:58:00 The IP address should differ only in the last number in the dotted quad. That is, if one is 192.168.0.1, the other could be 192.168.0.2 .

They must use the same mask. (The setup will probably give you the correct mask).
Graham L (2)
107154 2002-12-18 03:01:00 PC1 has 192.168.1.1 and PC2 has 192.168.1.2. The subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 discus (2802)
107155 2002-12-18 03:06:00 You said that PC 1 (We'll call it the gateway) can see both itself and the client, but neither can ping each other?!

Are you sure (In a command prompt - Press the Windows Key + R to bring up a run box and type command) your typing:
ping 192.168.1.1

If it can see it, should be able to ping it!
Chilling_Silence (9)
107156 2002-12-18 03:07:00 Just had another quick thought...

To access a PC (Im assuming you've setup shares of all the C: Drive on both and both are logging in as the same user), you can type in the address bar of an explorer window:
\\PCNamehere\Sharename\
and it'll bring up the shared folder, try that on both PC's and see what happens.
Chilling_Silence (9)
107157 2002-12-18 03:08:00 Yes I am sure I typed the ping command correctly - on both machines. discus (2802)
107158 2002-12-18 03:10:00 I've tried accessing PC2 from PC1 using Find > Computer and Run > Computer as well as ping, net diag and mapping network drive. discus (2802)
107159 2002-12-18 03:30:00 Check that you have a crossover cable. :D You should be able to see the colours of the wires through the plugs. Hold both ends with the cable down, and the latch facing away from you. Then the pin numbers go 1,2 ...,7,8 from left to right.

pin 1 goes to 3 on the other plug, 2 to 6, 3 to 1, 6 to 2. Those are the pins which matter.

Then if that's not the problem, just remove the networking from both computers. Then install it again :D.
Graham L (2)
107160 2002-12-18 03:34:00 It is definitely a crossover cable.

I uninstalled everything last night and started from scratch with the same result. I have another slot in PC2 that I could try (just in case the slot is naffed) so will give that a go tonight.

Is it agreed that I don't (shouldn't) use Netbeui? That TCP/IP is the protocol to use.
discus (2802)
107161 2002-12-18 03:37:00 It ought to work with TCP/IP.;-) If it works only with NetBEUI, it's a "Windows problem", not a "Networking problem". :D Graham L (2)
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