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110601 2003-01-02 21:40:00 just sitting here reading people posts and answering where i feel nessicary and watching the firewall turn away people's 'scans' and then... wow... netstat starts up on my screen... how interesting. i decide to check the firewall and what do you know, it's been disabled. with only an IP address to guide me i quickly run a track and trace on the IP and i find it to be a local user (chch nz) and quickly lock out that ip address permanatly. why do people bother? script kiddies... god dammit... little buggers :P hacking_local_isp_servers (2895)
110602 2003-01-02 21:49:00 Hey

Not all alerts are hack attempts... could be a person setting up PCAnywhere or something like that... unless it was a port scan attempt or something like that...

If it's really annoying you just email the ISP that the customer uses, give them the date and time and the ISP can [generally] track down what customer was using that IP, etc. However, most ISP's will not give you any information regarding the user as it violates their privacy policy


CyberChuck
cyberchuck (173)
110603 2003-01-02 22:09:00 i don't think you understand or know what your talking about cyberchuck.

This was not a scan, as someone penetrated his firewall and disabled it.
Why would someone setting up PC anywhere run netstat on a local computer?
roofus (483)
110604 2003-01-02 22:26:00 You can go here http://www.apnic.net and paste in that IP address. That place is a big massive directory of all the IP addresses in the Asia-Pacific region. ISP's keep records of all their customers usage, so you can ask who was using that IP address at the time of the attack. They probably wouldn't give out any personal details, but they might get in contact with the person and give them a good telling off or whatever. Let us know what happens. btw, it's cracker, not hacker. tango (2697)
110605 2003-01-03 01:39:00 > btw, it's cracker, not hacker.

Thanks tango, I was about to mention that. Here (db.ilug-bom.org.in) is a good page that explains the difference.
segfault (655)
110606 2003-01-03 09:45:00 yeah I can't stand the way the media (especially) calls them hackers, when they are not. tango (2697)
110607 2003-01-03 10:12:00 > with only an IP address to guide me i
> quickly run a track and trace on the IP and i find
> it to be a local user (chch nz) and quickly lock out
> that ip address permanatly. why do people bother?
> script kiddies... god dammit... little buggers :P

Sounds very romantic, however if you are so elite then why don't you close the security hole rather than lock out their IP?
BIFF (1)
110608 2003-01-03 19:15:00 >>> yeah I can't stand the way the media (especially) calls them hackers, when they are not.

They are still hackers. Cracker is a term that geeks derived from the word hacker - more slang or jargon than an accepted term, whereas hacker is the accepted term for anyone who gains access to another's system/files (either to improve security, or to get their dirty little fingers onto whatever they can find).

Mike.
Mike (15)
110609 2003-01-03 22:43:00 > > > > yeah I can't stand the way the media (especially)
> calls them hackers, when they are not.
>
> They are still hackers. Cracker is a term
> that geeks derived from the word hacker - more
> slang or jargon than an accepted term, whereas
> hacker is the accepted term for anyone who
> gains access to another's system/files (either to
> improve security, or to get their dirty little
> fingers onto whatever they can find).

You did read that link I posted didn't you? - "Hackers build things, crackers break them"
segfault (655)
110610 2003-01-03 22:46:00 he means that crackers are still hackers, because they hack, it's just they hack, then break. hackers just do that hack part. The thing that annoys me is that people who don't know any different see the word "hacker" and immediately think the worst. and newspapers use terms like "cyber terrorist", and that just blows it way out. tango (2697)
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