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110490 2003-01-02 04:51:00 I have a new machine that I built (on a budget but all parts new). Here's the specs
Duron 1200
256Mb DDR Ram
366A-AV Motherboard (VIA KT266A Chipset)
Winfast Geforce 2 64Mb Graphics Card
Intel 10/100+ Lan Card
40Gb Samsung H/Drive
DVD ROM (on same IDE as H/D)
40x CD Writer
52x CD ROM
Windows 2000 (with SP3) & Direct-X 8.1
Enermax Whisper 350w PSU


Most everything runs fine, but when I try to game, it will randomly reboot. Sometimes it will do it twice in a session, sometimes it won't do it for days. It happens occassionally when playing Quake 3, more often when playing Unreal Tournament, and every time I try to start America's Army. No problems when playing DVD movies or having other applications running.
CPU temp is O.K (66°C loaded, 53°C idle)
The only odd thing I can find is the -5v rail is at -7.6v, but am assured this isn't critical anyway.

Any thoughts guys would be appreciated
lockie (1394)
110491 2003-01-02 06:45:00 Could it be a problem with your RAM? I bought a few bad sticks in my time, and playing games would cause it to become unstable...

Lo.
Lohsing (219)
110492 2003-01-02 07:19:00 Last time i met that it turned out to be a dodgy power supply, so the 5 year old case got replaced with a bran new flash one with new power supply

Of course as it is an intermittant fault it is almost impossible to track it down short of replacing parts bit by bit till you find what part is spitting the intermittant dummy.
This is all very well if you have a small pool of spare parts, but if you haven't you've got big problems.

See if you could borrow some nasty but reliable RAM of someone, that seems to be a common cause, although i have not met that myself.

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
110493 2003-01-02 12:54:00 It possibly is dodgy RAM since Q3 uses a lot of RAM. I have similar problems and have been trying to figure out the cause of it. I've tried installing more cooling incase it overheats, I've tried different NVidia drivers for my graphics card and still had trouble with it crashing/rebooting.

I haven't replaced the RAM yet as I don't think it is the problem as I play Q3 on Linux and not once has it crashed. It could just be OS related, although I'm running XP Pro.
Kame (312)
110494 2003-01-02 13:07:00 From past experience with several PC's, with similar problems; the computer would randomly reboot, some times it would happen several times a day and sometimes it wouldn't happen for months, the problem was eventually traced to a faulty capacitor on the mainboard, and the solution was a mobo replacement. Note: In this case the PC would refuse to boot after the event.

Otherwise it could be a RAM problem, does you PC do a Memory test at bootup?


Cheers

Liam
nz_liam (845)
110495 2003-01-02 17:35:00 Just a thought WinXP to be helpful (cough) has a default setting to automatically reboot whenever a blue screen of death is encountered (so u don't get confused by the data on the screen) apparently having your machine randomly reboot is supposed to be lesss confusing (cough). I wonder if this is so for Win2K, as I haven't used it and someone more knowledgeable will tell you where to turn it off.

Sorry I can't help you further but search random reboot win 2000 on google should give you something
XOtagoScarfie (1619)
110496 2003-01-03 00:48:00 I would have to agree with .Clueless on this one.

I have just built myself a PC with a 250 Watt PSU (I think its that...) and when playing DVD's, if I try to switch to TV-Out, it resets coz it sucks so much power as it makes the switch, and with the DVD-ROM going, it loses power going to the HDD and other stuff, ending up in a reboot.

Perhaprs your PSU could be faulty? That would be my first thought...

Then, RAM - It could be that the RAM is not all good either. If you have some extra, try that for a few days and see what happens.

Im probably just clutching at straws, but they would seem like the two most likely things to me :-)

Cheers


Chilling_Silence
Chilling_Silence (9)
110497 2003-01-03 02:15:00 To identify a PSU shortage go into your BIOS, in there you will find a setting to tell the computer what to do when it has a shortage, there is an option to keep the computer off, or to restart.
if you change this setting and then witness a change in the behaviour, then you can narrow it down to the PSU.

Personally i think its RAM.
The ram check at startup is not sufficient to test ram. You need to find a ram testing programme.
try sisofts sandra software
roofus (483)
110498 2003-01-03 02:53:00 Cheerz
hadn't thought of that, and yes u can in W2K as well
lockie (1394)
110499 2003-01-03 08:07:00 I had what sounds to be a very similar problem with my new PC last month. I'm running XP on a VIA motherboard. After upgrading all drivers without success, I took the proverbial bull by the horns, crossed my fingers and reflashed the BIOS. Haven't had a reboot since. I'm still not certain whether the upgraded BIOS fixed the problem or if it was just that doing so reset all the BIOS options to the default settings, but it cured the problem.
Regards,
Andy
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