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110611 2003-01-04 01:55:00 Hackers sometimes break things too. Morris who shut down the Internet in 1988 didn't mean to. He had a bug in his programme. :D It was a worm, with which he was trying to measure the Internet. It was supposed to run a process on one computer, and start a copy of that process on each computer that one could find. This was recursive. And he got the test wrong. So it didn't start just one such process on each computer. :-( :-( The processes overloaded the machines. The mail messages from each process overloaded the network. Nobody got any work done on the Internet for a few days after that. :-( Morris, whose father is a high nob in the Internet hierarchy, got some time, and a heavy fine. The hole in the Unix mail code which allowed his worm to work has been fixed.

But crackers couldn't do anything as clever as that. ;-) They just get a script from some other idiots. Their intention is to break things.
Graham L (2)
110612 2003-01-04 02:17:00 In ACTUAL fact, the term hacker is correct. Despite what the fellow on your link says (who's to say that he's the world's authority anyway) hackers traditionally are folks that delve into their systems, beyond what is usual, and the common reference to a hacker is that he/she is someone that is doing precisely that, but unauthorised, on other people's systems. Crackers are generally persons that 'crack' code on software. Greg S (201)
110613 2003-01-04 02:33:00 The MIT ethos was where "hacking" came from.

Hackers built the Internet.
Graham L (2)
110614 2003-01-04 04:54:00 Hack hack code. Crackers crack systems.

Linus Torvalds spent many weeks at a time hacking together linux.
-=JM=- (16)
110615 2003-01-04 06:03:00 lol... you lot make me laugh :)) it's always funny to see how a subject can change like that. and just so you all now... i've never claimed to be "elite" and all i needed to run that trace was a program called NeoTrace. and as for the security breach that allowed the "attacker" access... long fixed. hacking_local_isp_servers (2895)
110616 2003-04-14 00:10:00 "with only an IP address to guide me i quickly run a track and trace on the IP and i find it to be a local user (chch nz) and quickly lock out that ip address permanatly."

Locking out the IP is pointless. I would look closely at the firewall you are using, check on google.com to see if there are known DoS exploits etc for that version of your firewall, and upgrade.

"why do people bother? script kiddies..."

A rhetorical question...probably because they can. Hell why do people hold up banks with guns made by someone else...anyone can point the thing and pull the trigger...I never heard of an army soldier being called a rifle-kiddie.

Always best to find out why they were able to disable your firewall, was it exploited from inside or out....and prevent it form happening again. Blocking the IP just leaves you open tot he same attack on a different IP.
Komodo (2898)
110617 2003-04-14 00:53:00 I am mildy surprised that you bothered to post this HLIS. Whether intentional or just tongue in cheek, your logon gives a clue to where your interests lie, as do some of your posts.

Is it possible that you are a (reformed) "Script Kiddie" yourself perhaps? :O

A less "in your face" logon might get you a more sympathetic hearing, but on the face of it, you seem to have been hoisted by your own petard.

Of course I could be wrong, and if so I apologise in advance before the freedom of speech brigade get on my case. :p

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :D
Billy T (70)
110618 2003-04-14 01:12:00 you said the IP address came from christchurch
all the sites i visit say i'm in Auckland but i'm not
so whats with this
sc0ut (2899)
110619 2003-04-14 01:13:00 to add to the hacker/cracker arguement

I found this:

hack·er1
n . Informal
One who is proficient at using or programming a computer; a computer buff .
One who uses programming skills to gain illegal access to a computer network or file .
One who enthusiastically pursues a game or sport: a weekend tennis hacker .

. yourdictionary . com/ahd/h/h0004900 . html" target="_blank">www . yourdictionary . com


and:

hacker
noun colloquial 1 computer enthusiast . 2 person who gains unauthorized access to computer network .

. askoxford . com/dictionary/hacker" target="_blank">www . askoxford . com

2 reputable dictionary's definitions . What do you think? (Oxford, and Merriam Webster)
somebody (208)
110620 2003-04-14 01:14:00 hmm... why did it go bold at the bottom? somebody (208)
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