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Thread ID: 28978 2003-01-07 01:48:00 How to destroy the PC's in the Shops! Chilling_Silence (9) Press F1
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111579 2003-01-07 01:48:00 Hows this for a laugh:

A friend just told me they'd been down to a local Computer Sales Store, and had been asking them about the demo PC's in the shop, and whether they were connected and stuff like that.

Anyways...
Reakons he booted off a DemoLinux CD and removed the ntldr and a few other files on the root C:\ drive, as it was a FAT32 FS!

I says he ejected the CD and ran off..

Now, I know that most shops leave the PC's sitting on the bench's etc, with a screen saver password, however, I've even done it once in 98 : Simply Reset the PC and you're back to login. 98/ME is easy, but not XP/2K. So my friend had a DemoLinux (Or CD similar to Knoppix, maybe even Knoppix, he just said "Bootable CD Linux") coz he was gonna take it over to a friends place after some shopping to demonstrate linux.
He put it in, booted off it and was away! He then proceeded to delete those few files, restarted the PC, and was off!

Is he pulling my leg, or can that sorta thing really go ahead?
There was no BIOS password either.. Im guessing that there are two ways to prevent this:
Install onto NTFS (Its read-only in Linux currently)
Install a BIOS password!

Just thought I'd share this with you, seeing as there's been a fair amount of interest in Knoppix since October's PCW CD!

Cheers


Chilling_Silence
Chilling_Silence (9)
111580 2003-01-07 02:03:00 It's possible. The first rule of security is that if someone can boot the machine, you have no security. A BIOS boot password is a bit safer, as long as opening the box to remove that will be noticed. :D

Knoppix mounts the disk read-only. That's easily changed.
Graham L (2)
111581 2003-01-07 02:19:00 Well, I just hate to think what was going through their minds when they found a PC turned off.. Turn it on.. Come back 5 mins later and see errors coming up?! Cant be good for the Customer Relations :p Chilling_Silence (9)
111582 2003-01-07 03:12:00 chilling_silence you are so mischievous...i know it was your friend but you shared it :P

Get your mate to go to Harvey Norman, those fulla's are scoundrels! *grumble mumble*

TonesMalones
tones_malones (611)
111583 2003-01-07 03:16:00 > chilling_silence you are so mischievous . . . i know it
> was your friend but you shared it :P
>

:p

> Get your mate to go to Harvey Norman, those fulla's
> are scoundrels! *grumble mumble*
>

I'll pass that on :D
Chilling_Silence (9)
111584 2003-01-07 04:19:00 i work in a net cafe and i couldn't give a monkeys ass what they do to these machenes

it just takes me 2 minits to get the ghost and 30 seconds to change the IP address

is you want to do damage what you need to do is hit the hardware with heat

"OVERCLOCK" :-P
this is one shure way to screw the PC
back to work
]cya
sc0ut (2899)
111585 2003-01-07 08:32:00 Hehe, True, but Im not too sure how many shops implement that!
I too worked at a cyber Cafe - Xzact in Te Atatu, but resigned to pursue other employment around 4 months ago.

Overclocking.. Well, He wasnt going to try and do permanent damage, I think he just wanted to see how low their security was.

He discovered it wasnt too good :)

Thanks for that though, I've just gotta hope he doesnt notice this post, as he sometimes comes here, but hasnt had a need to sign up, He just browses for fun :-)
Chilling_Silence (9)
111586 2003-01-07 08:38:00 I must have missed the point. Or its late.
Why would the shop want to implement security that would restrict a prospective customer in evaluating a particular PC?

And why would someone want to malicously interfere with a demo PC?

Its just another form of vandalism, there is no gain for anyone, just a mess to clean up.

Does your "mate" try a bunch of keys on cars in a car yard, to "test their locks"?
godfather (25)
111587 2003-01-07 08:46:00 Hmm... No, and I do agree to a point. I do find it a bit amusing that such a thing is so easily possible, sorta like leaving the keys under the back tyre!

A customer is NOT going to review a PC by checking out its BIOS settings are they, nor will they want to see the XP Boot-Up Splash screen!

Perhaps the point is a rather fine one to see.. and it is starting to get late, but you are right, which was why I did not agree with sc0ut's comments of Overclocking, rather said that I hoped my friend didnt happen to chance across this thread!

Dont worry, Im not planning or holding a big "Knoppix - PC Crew" fest later on this year ;-)
Chilling_Silence (9)
111588 2003-01-07 10:41:00 nonono

i wasn't saying to destroy it, "I don't want that **** to happen"
i'm just saying how "someone" whould inflickt perminant damage

i deal with this **** all the time and my job is to stop it.
personly i don't cair if someone reformats one of the computers at my work, cos its no problem, but i'm saying if they dammage the hardware thats a big problem

to get is strait i'm saying there is the only one thing you need to protect with computers from the public (HARDWARE) and ........... (redgiusted CD keys)
sc0ut (2899)
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