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Thread ID: 29400 2003-01-18 19:46:00 (Linux) why do i have a system generated mail folder/message in my email client?? Clueless (181) Press F1
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115073 2003-01-18 19:46:00 I was having a wee play with some of those built in programmes on the KDE menu, and went back to my email client only to discover this (sal.neoburn.net)

I looked at it blankly, excepted its exsistance, but have to "question what is going on here?"
The programs i fired up were in the internet > tools dept
thus (sal.neoburn.net) I of course tried them all.

Me confused!

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
115074 2003-01-18 20:26:00 Every time you read your inbox or a Mail folder with an IMAP email client such as webmail or OE Eudora or Netscape Messenger (set for IMAP), the IMAP server creates a file to keep track of folder data .

If you then connect to your mail account pine, or use a POP email client you will see these files as messages with the subject "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA" .


* Do not delete these messages in pine .


* If your POP e-mail client has downloaded them to your computer, you can delete them from your computer .
Jim B (153)
115075 2003-01-18 20:37:00 ok... um still dont get it.
i opened the programs to see what they do, none of them were heavy ones like netscape etc, and none of them got given any info as to where i get my mail etc
anyway, this is more than a message because it created a folder in kmail (see screenshot)which is something i assume that pop.paradise.net.nz , pop.mydomainatregistordirect.co.nz, or smtp.paradise.net.nz would be able to do.

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
115076 2003-01-18 20:46:00 >would be able to do.

sorry.. read that as would NOT be able to do

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
115077 2003-01-18 21:05:00 Not sure why it created a folder but this message can be created with some mail servers.
It is required for IMAP mail but is basically a configuration problem on the mail server if it appears when using POP3
If you are using IMAP it should not appear at all.

It can happen when you login to your webmail first which is running IMAP and then go to your normal POP3 mail program and download again from there.
You will get this message appear which you can safely delete but will appear again if you go to webmail first and then download again using your pop server.
Jim B (153)
115078 2003-01-19 00:02:00 Thanks Jim... i now have a couple more pieces of the jigsaw in my view.
However, the bit that has me most confused is:
"From:
Mail System Internal Data <MAILER-DAEMON@sam>"

I wasn't aware that Sam (my computer) was running a mailer-daemon, is there any way of telling, do i need it, and how do i stop it?

I'm still a little confused/concerned about the fact a new directory was added to my mail store.

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
115079 2003-01-19 02:17:00 If you are receiving mail on that machine it has to have a mailer daemon. That's what steers any incoming mail to the appropriate mailbox. If you started more than one mail programme, each will have started their own daemon, and they each have to have somewhere to keep track of things. (I can't see those screen dumps ... they are not on a .nz site :D).

To see what's running, ps aux | more. Any daemon has a "d" as the last letter of its name. Logical, huh? ;-)
Graham L (2)
115080 2003-01-19 02:33:00 Graham, just for you and anyone else who canno access overseas sites

kmail (something.orcon.net.nz):

progs i tried (something.orcon.net.nz)

These are now on my "orcon" space

i'm just of to try ps aux | more

Thanks.
.Clueless
Clueless (181)
115081 2003-01-19 02:42:00 hippy@sam:~> ps aux | more
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1 0.0 0.0 448 64 ? S Jan17 0:05 init [5]
root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Jan17 0:02 [keventd]
root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Jan17 0:00 [kapmd]
root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SWN Jan17 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Jan17 0:06 [kswapd]
root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Jan17 0:00
root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Jan17 0:09 [kupdated]
root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Jan17 0:00 [kinoded]
root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW< Jan17 0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
root 12 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Jan17 0:00 [kreiserfsd]
root 910 0.0 0.0 1492 212 ? S Jan17 0:02 /sbin/syslogd
root 913 0.0 0.0 2008 172 ? S Jan17 0:01 /sbin/klogd -c 1
bin 979 0.0 0.0 1352 116 ? S Jan17 0:00 /sbin/portmap
root 1018 0.0 0.0 2652 4 ? S Jan17 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
at 1038 0.0 0.0 1456 100 ? S Jan17 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
root 1085 0.0 0.0 1476 116 ? S Jan17 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
mail 1102 0.0 0.1 5384 316 ? S Jan17 0:00 sendmail: Queue r
unner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue
root 1107 0.0 0.1 5592 372 ? S Jan17 0:00 sendmail: accepti
ng connections
root 1215 0.0 0.1 11804 364 ? S Jan17 0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd
--More--

[b]Surely this isnt a complete list? i see no reference to kmail, and konqueror which i am also running. I also am a little confused in so much as i see sendmail running, and was of the impression that kmail just spat the mail in the general direction of smtp.paradise.net.nz
Clueless (181)
115082 2003-01-19 03:29:00 You will need to hit a key to get it to scroll down the rest of the list (more is used to prevent the whole lot scrolling past).

If you are running it in an xterm/konsole etc you can just use "ps aux" and scroll up.

re: Sendmail, you don't need to have it running unless you configured kmail to use it instead of the paradise net SMTP server.
bmason (508)
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