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| 114863 | 2003-01-18 07:03:00 | I am thinking of setting up a budget computer for home use -- I am not into gaming at all but do a bit of CAD using bits I have already--sd ram included. the mb and cpu I am considering are:- Intel Celeron 1.3GHz Shuttle AV18E P3 motherboard any inspirational thoughts would be appreciated-- dumdugie |
dum dugie (432) | ||
| 114864 | 2003-01-18 07:34:00 | > I am thinking of setting up a budget computer for > home use -- I am not into gaming at all but do a bit > of CAD > > using bits I have already--sd ram included. > the mb and cpu I am considering are:- > > Intel Celeron 1.3GHz Well if you are into CAD then this is miles to slow. CAD programs really hog the CPU these days and you should go for a big CPU. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 114865 | 2003-01-18 07:40:00 | Hi dum dugie I bought an AMD 1300GHz, 128MB SDram PC and built in sound with no hard drive or CD Rom for an upgrade for $360 this morning I am making it now from an old PCs hard drive and CDRom and modem My old modem was ISA, so I have had to use another PCI modem Then I am giving it to a friend who wanted to buy a replacement PC for $1800 when they already had W98 and office 97 on a P166. The CAD might mean that you have to buy a better video card than the onboard one. But you may get away with it. Just budget for it in case you need it once you have your new one set up. If the current PC is OEM, then you are not supposed to migrate the license for windows - or you could try Linux if the CAD program supports it. |
Marty2001 (421) | ||
| 114866 | 2003-01-18 08:31:00 | yes thanks for both replies---I will be running GF4 hopefully or GF2 if I can't find the $$$--- this raises another thought I had---if you have the cad open twice you can be doing light work on one job while the other is working hard--thus reducing waiting time. if the program does not support twin CPU's then maybe twin MB's could be used--thus twin video cards--cloning maybe?? |
dum dugie (432) | ||
| 114867 | 2003-01-18 09:41:00 | I have never seen a twin motherboard - did you mean CPU as you stated prior? Then it is getting out of the realm of budget. As far as I know, you have to make sure the CPUs are identical and I have only twin CPU'd high performance processors. You can have twin video cards on one motherboard |
Marty2001 (421) | ||
| 114868 | 2003-01-18 19:08:00 | yes sorry Marty--- I am pretty much happy with what I am going to do with my home computer (famous last words) --- the ammount of proccessor a cad program needs depends on the program and what you are trying to do--and the time available. The second thought I had relates to a different situation--- where time and $$ are important. Heavy graphics where I am already running dual head GF2. The proccessor can peak to 100% for minutes on end whereas the memory hardly moves. In a previous thread I was able to establish that twin CPU's have to be supported by the software--and in this case they are not. The thing, it seems to me, is to find a way to utilize a second CPU within the same computer--but how---so that the program can be open twice. I spose this will become a question of 'when is one computer two computers' |
dum dugie (432) | ||
| 114869 | 2003-01-18 19:22:00 | have you ever considered the AMD Duron 1.3Ghz? This is a MUCH MUCH cheaper version, and MUCH MUCH better proformance. | ~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054) | ||
| 114870 | 2003-01-18 19:37:00 | thanks sy that's the kind of info I was chasing--I will look into it | dum dugie (432) | ||
| 114871 | 2003-01-18 23:30:00 | sy is right, that processor should have enough grunt for moderate cad. I run an athlon 1200 with 384Mb RAM, and do some cad work. With this system I am able to work with more that one cad-style program (different applications) open at once, and even photoshop too at times, although only one actually processing at any given time. I think you would only need multi-processing if you were doing HEAVY cad work, and then you need a special motherboard, and Multi-Processor rated processors like the AthlonMP or the xeon PIII. These are VERY expensive. I would seriously recommend getting an athlonXP though, rather than a duron, if you can afford it, as they are much faster at rendering 2D graphics - stuff that is not handled by the graphics card as a rule. HTH Craig. |
craig_b (2740) | ||
| 114872 | 2003-01-18 23:42:00 | Another point to note - the geforce4 won't add any performance gain to cad work, as it is 2D rendering. Unless you want to play games, a 3D graphics card is unneccessary. A geforce2 would do fine - if you can find a cheap one - i think they are about the same price now tho. If you want to do serious cad work, then try to find a 2D graphics card. I have seen special cad ones available, but they were in the realm of $12,000 just for the 2D module. (yes that is 12 thousand). Maybe you need to sort out just what sort of cad work you need to be doing and how intensive it is likely to be. ie are you going to be rendering full scale aircraft, or 1:10 buildings, or what? Craig. |
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