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115439	2003-01-20 10:26:00	I often get a time lag of around 30 secs or more between when i click on a link( or surfing thru the posts on F1) and something actually happening on my screen. My set up is as follows C/panel -modems shows "generic soft 56k data fax voice..." (comm3 38400 ) C/panel -My connection shows connect using "Ambient Ham data fax ......."A click on configure produces "you cannot configure an uninstalled modem......"! In control panel there is a logo for the "ham" (not in the modem foder) but a click on the configure button comes up with a rundll error. Setting up a new connection using the "generic....." modem means i can't connect to the ISP at all and i have to thank Bill for system restore;-) There's more but i'm hoping someone may be able to get me on the right track if indeed i do have a conflict here. Tia Rick O/S Windows ME 733 20 G 112 mb	hasco (2698)
115440	2003-01-20 18:30:00	Start > Settings > Control Panel > System Click on the Device Manager tab Are any devices conflicting or not working proplerly? - especially in your modem section? CyberChuck	cyberchuck (173)
115441	2003-01-20 18:40:00	Also, furthering on from that Start > Settings > Dialup Networking Right Click on your current connection and left click properties Where it says "Connect Using" - What Modem is it connecting to your dialup ISP as?	cyberchuck (173)
115442	2003-01-20 19:19:00	The question is where do you start! Your using ihugs Ultra aren't you? if your using their satellite version then you can expect lag of 3seconds. If your terestrial then its well under 1second. Sounds like one of those modems shouldn't be there. the satellite will come up as a network adapter, but i'm not too sure about this HAM stuff.	roofus (483)
115443	2003-01-20 19:27:00	> The question is where do you start! You wait for someone (like me!) to post how they would go about these fixes and then you work off them! > Sounds like one of those modems shouldn't be there. the satellite will > come up as a network adapter, but i'm not too sure about this HAM > stuff. Don't forget that Ihug doesn't allow uploads via it's Ultra Network - so you have to have a 56k Modem to do uploads. Although that's where it can get ironic. No uploads via it's network would signify that you can't upload your request to have the website you want displayed, so it will have to go through your 56k. However, if the request goes through your 56k then won't it come back Via your 56k? ?:| - oh dear I've just gone cross-eyed again :p *wonders if the same is true for emails considering you upload them to your email server so they can send it?*	cyberchuck (173)
115444	2003-01-20 20:10:00	CC... Get some sleep man.. your babbling! It works by all out going traffic leaves via the modem and incoming comes in via the satalite. you send a request for outgoing traffic your modem spits it at IHUG, IHUG then find the data, and spits it back at you via your dish either via satalite or via local transmitter. Given that 90% of a normal users traffic is incoming, this may work fairly well. Its is simply a scaled down version of the trick that let IHUG have cheaper bandwidth than every other ISP before we had the southern cross cable. Its been 2 years since i have had a connection of this nature, i tossed it in favour of cable. It sounds like a good idea would be to download drivers etc for the satalite card (don't ask me how :p)and reinstall everything that relates to your modem or your connection. You should be able to connect using your full email address as the username. IHUG have set up the system so that that will give you connection via modem only. If not that will point toward the problem being with your modem, not the card. As for this HAM stuff.... well its got me confused, but i wouldnt touch it myself! .Clueless	Clueless (181)
115445	2003-01-20 20:27:00	> CC . . . > Get some sleep man . . your babbling! Wha? - it's what I get for troubleshooting Windows through the night > It works by all out going traffic leaves via the > modem and incoming comes in via the satalite . you > send a request for outgoing traffic your modem spits > it at IHUG, IHUG then find the data, and spits it > back at you via your dish either via satalite or via > local transmitter . So what if you use Xtra as your dialup account? - then what happens? - would Xtra pass the request onto IHUG who find your information, receive it and spit it right back at your dish? > Given that 90% of a normal users > traffic is incoming, this may work fairly well . Its > is simply a scaled down version of the trick that let > IHUG have cheaper bandwidth than every other ISP > before we had the southern cross cable . That's a great thing isn't it? - it's kinda sad that the Southern Cross cable isn't getting used to it's full potential - however I'd say it will get used more if and when ADSL get's repriced by telecom CyberChuck	cyberchuck (173)
115446	2003-01-20 20:51:00	Cyberchuck >So what if you use Xtra as your dialup account? - then what happens? - would Xtra pass the request onto IHUG who find your information, receive it and spit it right back at your dish? IHUG are/were marketing a kind of pepay fast internet system that worked just like that, you could simply turn the speed on and get use up a few Mb that would come to you via your dish. "great for downloads" etc etc. Aparently it didnt matter who you "normally" connected with. Ironicly the prepay system was probably a good idea, as IHUG retail bandwidth is now the most expensive i have seen. My $177 internet access bill for moving 7gig in one month ($200+ if you take into account the dedicated phone line for the outgoing data) was the reason i removed the sat card, posted it back to IHUG and rang Telstra to talk cable. At that rate i was set to pay 3grand a year for internet and fone I now pay $108/month (1,300/year)total, with 2 phone lines for speech and better quality of connection, i also use over 10gig/month, but as much of that is local, i stay under the 10 gig cap. In case you didnt realise ALL data coming in via the satalite version of this service counts as international, and it doesnt take much to use up your free megs .Clueless	Clueless (181)
115447	2003-01-20 20:59:00	>So what if you use Xtra as your dialup account? - then what happens? - would Xtra pass the request onto IHUG who find your information, receive it and spit it right back at your dish? sort of. most new accounts have the vpn setup. you dail up eg to xtra than make a vpn connection to ihug. that way you can use ihug sat without changing isp, email addys etc. only catch is some isp won't let you access your email via ihug. you have to drop the vpn connection and download via modem only. >>hasco it looks like you have 2 modem entries. however i doubt this is causing a problem. does the lag only happen when useing ihug or through dailup as well? how good is your modem connection? most people with ihug sat have poor dailup so often it pays to string the modem down to a slower speed. also check the ber for the dish and ver of firmware/drivers used for the ihug card.	tweak'e (174)
115448	2003-01-20 23:17:00	> Also, furthering on from that > > Start > Settings > Dialup Networking > Right Click on your current connection and left click > properties > Where it says "Connect Using" - What Modem is it > connecting to your dialup ISP as? This is where ti gets interesting. Do the above and i get "dial up n/w cannot find the specified modem install the modem or select a new modem before you dial" click ok on that screen which then brings up the my connection one. It shows the "ambient Ham......." modem.Click the little arrow and it also has the "generic....."modem listed. But neither modem will work via the set up new modem wizard. I get the lag whether i use the internet via the satellite or just straight thru the modem only. Tia Rick	hasco (2698)
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