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115672	2003-01-21 22:09:00	> Not all music is copyright and AFAIK none of this > software is illegal. Your now creating bias comments. Not all software is copyright either (freeware) If you want to discuss the laws, make up your own thread for discussion. This thread is about how to back up my game I paid for.	roofus (483)
115673	2003-01-21 22:25:00	Geez . . . before this turns into a flame war, consider this . There are hundreds of laws out there which regulate and determine whether an action is considered legal or not . Before you take the moral high ground regarding software back-ups, consider that a 50km/hr speed limit is just that . . . similarly the 100km/hr limit on motorways should be just that . The point is, Crozier, that unless you follow absolutely every single law in the country, then you are in no position to be preaching technicalities to anyone . I believe this law is a farce along with others out there . To tell me I can't copy a game I own, and expect it to get scratched so I can't play it any longer is bollocks . For goodness' sake, on the xtra website itself, I have seen several articles referring to emulators and roms (illegal if you don't own the originals) as well as mp3 downloading . Both illegal in my opinion . On top of that, there was an article not so long ago on file-sharing and P2P services written in a NZ PC magazine (can't remember which one) . . . Game back-ups fall into this category where common sense should prevail over over-zealous law . Lo .	Lohsing (219)
115674	2003-01-21 22:27:00	>> Not all music is copyright and AFAIK none of this >> software is illegal. >Your now creating bias comments. Not all software is copyright either (freeware) Now you're just being silly. But I'll spell it out for you. Not all music or software is copyright, BUT you're discussing illegally copying specific games here in NZ, thinly veilled as backing up your own software, have you read the EULA on any of your games? Just because you disagree with the laws doesn't mean that you can flout them or decide that they don't apply to you. I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home, copy as many CDs as you want. But I do object to an open conversation about breaking the law of the land on this public, family oriented forum. I believe that if it's not legal then it doesn't belong here.	crozier (2004)
115675	2003-01-21 22:29:00	> I don't care what you do in > the privacy of your own home, copy as many CDs as you > want. But I do object to an open conversation about > breaking the law of the land on this public, family > oriented forum. I believe that if it's not legal then > it doesn't belong here. So what you're saying then is that you feel it is your job to censure what we're discussing? Lo.	Lohsing (219)
115676	2003-01-21 22:38:00	>common sense should prevail over over-zealous law. Hmmm, isn't that what you'd call anarchy? >I believe this law is a farce along with others out there. To tell me I can't copy a game I own, and expect it to get scratched so I can't play it any longer is bollocks. First, Lohsing, that kind of language is uncalled for and usually indicates that the author is unable to express themselves better, rember that this is supposed to be a family oriented forum! Please keep your vulgarities to yourself! Secondly, as long as I consider a law to be a farce then it's OK to flout it? If I consider shoplifting to be a silly law then it OK for me to shoplift? >The point is, Crozier, that unless you follow absolutely every single law in the country, then you are in no position to be preaching technicalities to anyone. You're assuming that I don't try to follow every law? That you're judging me by your own standards? I wasn't 'preaching' I was complaining that the discussion was in the wrong forum. Neither MP3 or P2P software is illegal. However sharing copyright material is. You do see the difference, don't you? *zips up flame retardant suit*	crozier (2004)
115677	2003-01-21 22:43:00	Make sure that suit is zipped up tight: > Neither MP3 or P2P software is illegal . However > sharing copyright material is . You do see the > difference, don't you? > MP3's and P2P ARE FULLY LEGAL!!! I make recordings of my dad's sermons that he preaches most sundays . . And guess what format I save them to my PC as?! MP3!!! And guess what!?! Its legal! Guess how I Record them?? In Goldwave (www . goldwave . com)! Guess how I play them?? In WinAmp 2 . 81 Is it legal? YES! Every step of the way!!!! Now . . I use WinMX (Like kazaa . . . only better) and I share this file that Ive saved as and MP3 . . I tell a few friends that the name of the file is something randomly typed in, like "19012003message1_roger_spackman" and they look for it . . and then download it via the net from me . . . GUESS WHAT! Its legal!! It all depend on how you use the software matey!	Chilling_Silence (9)
115678	2003-01-21 22:46:00	>> Neither MP3 or P2P software is illegal. However >> sharing copyright material is. You do see the >> difference, don't you? >MP3's and P2P ARE FULLY LEGAL!!! >Its legal!! >It all depend on how you use the software matey! Erm.... isn't that what I said, Chill?!	crozier (2004)
115679	2003-01-21 22:47:00	Kids please STOP FIGHTING . . . Okay, I will clarify a few things as I interpret them and then that will be the END OF THREAD Backups of CD's Although still under debate in NZ as our politicians scratch their bum's and decide what to do . While other countries have permitted copying of CD's for backup purposes as NZ is still thinking about what it will do, then it is in theory illegal . However, I very much doubt Microsoft will come along to Roofus' house and arrest him for making a copy of his game just so he can play it due to the origional getting scratched . So Roofus, I hope you have enough information to continue playing your game . CyberChuck END OF THREAD	cyberchuck (173)
115680	2003-01-21 23:16:00	wholly molly i'm posting past the end of a thread, am i going into the abyss :-) This thread isn't over until i have resolved my issues or no one wants to reply. However the disucssion on legality can be considered stoped. We could debate till we are blue in the face, I have many come back IMHO and at the law side of things, but this thread isn't for that discussion. Micrososft knows i have the age of empires game because i have registered it.	roofus (483)
115681	2003-01-21 23:28:00	Lohsing said: >So what you're saying then is that you feel it is your job to censure what we're discussing? I feel it is my right as an honest and law-abiding citizen. cyberchuck said: >>Kids please STOP FIGHTING... >>Okay, I will clarify a few things as I interpret them and then that will be the END OF THREAD 1. Calling people kids will only add fuel to the fire. 2. You have no right to end this thread arbitrarily. Guys, I think this was taken the wrong way and perhaps some people get upset when the finger is pointed at them. However, I will ALWAYS comment when I see bad language or discussions about illegal practices on this FAMILY ORIENTED site. There are plenty of sites dedicated to the 'backing up' of software on the internet, some even have forums of there own, but roofus decided to use this forum where I and others consider it to be unwelcome.	crozier (2004)
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