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Thread ID: 126814 2012-09-19 07:30:00 Planning to get a car for the first time need some help Ninjabear (2948) PC World Chat
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1302177 2012-09-28 08:02:00 Interesting considering until 2010 Mazda and Ford had merged and a lot of Fords had Mazda engines.

Actually, the Fords were cosmetically restyled and rebadged Mazdas. I refer to the 323/Laser, 626/Telstar, and some commercial vans. Only the Falcon Saloon and Ute remained 100% Ford, including engines.

The Laser/Telstar twins were built in the Plunket Ave, Wiri Plant, but I don't recall where the Mazda Plant was, but they began in Otahuhu I think. I was working around the Motor industry at that time and was in and out of most of the Auckland plants plus Toyota Thames.

Funny thing was that although I always understood that the 323/Laser motors were notionally the same, the Ford version smoked when the km's got up a bit but the Mazda didn't. It may be that Ford sourced their motors from Australia while Mazda used Japanese production; both brands were using CKD kits anyway with limited local input.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
1302178 2012-09-28 10:09:00 Coincidentally I drove a Bluebird Sylphy on a bit of a tikky tour around parts of the South Island last week. It was sweet, 1.8L made for easy driving over the hilly bits, but at the same time it seemed very economical, It handled nicely, even in the extreme curvy bits (lots). Our model had walnut panels, aircon etc etc very nice car. Sorry don't know what year it was. nor remember the milage. Its not a car that has oodles of power to spare, it just gets you from A to B efficiently without fuss. Probably ideal for what you want. PPp (9511)
1302179 2012-09-28 12:12:00 I drive a Nissan Primera 2ltr ... bought it with 21,000 Ks on it about 9 years ago and it now has 265,750Ks on it. Motor still strong as and still gets up around 180 kph on a deserted road a 3 in the am (not that I would ever consider doing such a thing :rolleyes:)

Had several sets of Michelin tyres on it and one set of Pirellis (not as good and went back to Michelins) ... water pump replaced, battery replaced, fuel pump replaced and some other minor things like light bulbs, fan belt, etc.

Economy wise ... driving at posted speed limits, I can drive Dunedin - Christchurch and return (approx 750 Ks) on under a full tank of gas. Have got accurate petrol consumption figures but they're on another drive.

It has been used to teach 3 of my kids how to drive and has been some places a 2 wheel drive passenger vehicle should never been able to go ... two wheel rear drive just wouldn't have the traction of the front wheel drive under motor weight.

The clutch has just started slipping a bit when under load on steep streets, so that is going to be replaced ... only because I want to find out how many Ks the damn thing will do before the motor gives up.

Friend of mine is a qualified motor re-conditioner and he's said that lately the newer Toyota's are not as good and start burning oil at very low mileage ... his first choice in build quality now, excluding European models, is Hyundai.

Having said all this ... i am thinking of becoming a tree hugging greenie and buying a horse because they're cheaper to fuel up (eats the neighbours lawns, flowers and vege garden bare) emissions are carbon neutral and make the roses bloom beautifully.

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