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Thread ID: 126760	2012-09-17 05:28:00	Benes your free money supply is tightening up	prefect (6291)	PC World Chat

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1301520	2012-09-18 04:12:00	Who decides if the offer is suitable? Under what criteria? Will that mean someone in Bluff being forced to shift to Auckland because there is a job there? They would never force you to shift anywhere. By suitable employment they mean something that you are able to do. If you decline to apply or refuse to be referred to a job without good and sufficent reason then they are legally allowed to action what is called a "Work Test". Eg, someone with a medically approved 'bad back' would not be sent to a position in which heavy lifting is involved. Or if you do not have a licence they do not disadvantage you by referring you to driving jobs (this is aka counter-productive). As Chill said if he had of been referred to low/no skill level jobs (such as the entry-level baker) and he declined this because "I'm above it" (Come on Chill - I know that would have been your response - because I would have said the same thing =D) they would have "Work Tested" him.	lordnoddy (3645)
1301521	2012-09-18 04:43:00	Yeah pretty much. Reasons didn't really matter why I declined it (It was actually "because I don't want to, would rather work in IT coz I find that more enjoyable"), but the fact was I had previously been allowed to decline said job offers which I realistically *could* have done, while still receiving benefit payments from the Government. I never did receive a single payment from the Govt though, I went out and got a job and started only a couple of days later, never finishing off the paperwork. Thankfully, this is all about to change for the better.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1301522	2012-09-18 04:54:00	Yeah pretty much. Reasons didn't really matter why I declined it (It was actually "because I don't want to, would rather work in IT coz I find that more enjoyable"), but the fact was I had previously been allowed to decline said job offers which I realistically *could* have done, while still receiving benefit payments from the Government. I never did receive a single payment from the Govt though, I went out and got a job and started only a couple of days later, never finishing off the paperwork. Thankfully, this is all about to change for the better. Ah right - Well because you were not receiving payments - you had every right to decline any job offer. Good on ya mate! With your knowledge and experience (and that gorgeous CV >.-) I'd be surprised you couldn't find employment.	lordnoddy (3645)
1301523	2012-09-18 06:05:00	There is likely to be costs to up-skill beneficiaries to improve job prospects. Then surely a employer would more likely employ a person currently employed or a recent graduate, more so than a beneficiary. Also there was a NZ Herald article no long ago with too many older folk (I say experienced but...) remaining in work (e.g. teachers), thereby making it a bit difficult for the younger to get employed within NZ.	kahawai chaser (3545)
1301524	2012-09-18 06:36:00	Right now there's 10,000 jobs a *week* available at WINZ. They have STACKS of them available. Who cares if you're not super-qualified to be a baker, it's easy to wake up at 4AM in the morning and with on-the-job training, you should be available to do-so. As it stands right now WINZ say "What sort of job are you after Mr Chilling_Silence?" "Oh I've been working in IT for a while, some sort of network administration, perhaps even Helpdesk role, but ideally I'm looking for something in VoIP or networking" "I don't believe we have anything available right now in those areas, and I've never heard of VoIP, so what I'll do is take down your details and when something comes up we'll let you know" ... and they sent me on my way. That was a little over 2 years ago now. Could I have taken any of the 10,000 jobs that were sitting that I read through at the back? Most probably over half of them, many provide on the job training as needed. I couldn't do some like driving a forklift which requires qualifications (Drivers licence) but most didn't. Yet, they were perfectly content to let me go on my way, not having to apply for any of them. I could have easily been a baker, or a myriad of other jobs! They rang me just over 3 months later "Hi Mr Chilling_Silence, this is somebody from WINZ, we have one job available here that we think you may be suitable for doing Helpdesk work, are you interested to come in and have a look?" "No thanks, I've just passed my 90 day mark with a new company and they gave me a 50% payrise. Thankyou anyway" There wasn't a "We've got a job, you're taking it", there wasn't a "You could do this other job here ,even though it's not your ideal field". No, I went out and got myself a job, I took anything I could, and I got one two days later. If you're taking a handout, you should be taking any job they can give you. Plain and simple. PC and co will not like that thinking, why I know not as to me it is self evident.	Cicero (40)
1301525	2012-09-18 08:36:00	There is likely to be costs to up-skill beneficiaries to improve job prospects. Then surely a employer would more likely employ a person currently employed or a recent graduate, more so than a beneficiary. Thats true in some ways. Employers will not hire somebody that has been unemployed for years and haven't got the right work ethics to get up and go to work every day.	QW. (15883)
1301526	2012-09-18 08:59:00	Right now there's 10,000 jobs a *week* available at WINZ. They have STACKS of them available. One snag is that they are not in areas where many of the unemployed live! Before you say move then you might noticed house prices dropping and some the locations are seasonal jobs including in the farming/tourism sector where these rural unemployed live.	coldfront (15814)
1301527	2012-09-18 09:09:00	One snag is that they are not in areas where many of the unemployed live! Before you say move then you might noticed house prices dropping and some the locations are seasonal jobs including in the farming/tourism sector where these rural unemployed live. Work and Income will not help with moving unless there is job guaranteed for whoever needs to move.	QW. (15883)
1301528	2012-09-18 21:26:00	Work and Income will not help with moving unless there is job guaranteed for whoever needs to move. Thats not what I was refering to in that reply. My ref was to the claim of 10,000 jobs per week being available and where are they? This is ONE of the reasons why there are so many unemployed !!!!	coldfront (15814)
1301529	2012-09-18 21:47:00	Just because there are 10,000 jobs available this week and 10,000 next, does it necessarily follow that makes 20,000 jobs? Or are some carried over, because to my mind, if the NZ economy was creating 10,000 jobs a week it should also be capable of paying higher interest on my investments, as it would be a booming economy, (which it clearly is not) something smells in that 10,000 jobs per week figure Chills, are you certain of this figure, 10,000 new jobs every week?	KarameaDave (15222)
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