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Thread ID: 126780	2012-09-18 00:23:00	Hungry school kids	rob_on_guitar (4196)	PC World Chat

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1301769	2012-09-18 02:30:00	Perhaps our good corporate citizens (Fonterra, Goodman Fielder, etc)could step up to the mark? Ooops I feel another Tui moment coming on. Fonterra already are doing a lot. The school I drive for as one example. Don't know, so can't comment on Goodman Fielder. Ken	kenj (9738)
1301770	2012-09-18 02:40:00	Perhaps our good corporate citizens (Fonterra, Goodman Fielder, etc)could step up to the mark? Ooops I feel another Tui moment coming on. Why should they? If I was a shareholder I would feel it was simply another tax. Parents have to pay for their OWN offspring Benefits should only be given out as vouchers that are non transferable and non redeemable for anything other than their stated purpose. Such as food vouchers, bill vouchers, etc etc etc DO NOT GIVE THEM CASH!!	DeSade (984)
1301771	2012-09-18 03:20:00	I was thinking of ways to help, thought maybe a BBQ could help, but certainly not the answer, like you could make a profit from a sausage sizzle to buy food and have a school day of BBQ at lunchtimes or something, it couldn't hurt. The parents really do need to step up though, shaming them just creates anger and more disasters, I struggled as a parent for awhile,but it is not hard to sit down and calculate what you need to do to feed your kids. Another argument I have read is the price of food, gas etc has gone right up and wages havent, to me that is a cop out.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
1301772	2012-09-18 10:14:00	Why should they? Parents have to pay for their OWN offspring Benefits should only be given out as vouchers that are non transferable and non redeemable for anything other than their stated purpose. Such as food vouchers, bill vouchers, etc etc etc DO NOT GIVE THEM CASH!! +1. Providing an alternative source of food at the schools allows these families to only further neglect their duties of care, and ultimately may entrench the problems even deeper. Throwing more cash at them may, and may not help, as DeSade correctly indicates that cash can be spent on all manner of things, and not necessarily food. However, if their benefit was apportioned into vouchers for 1) Bread, 2) Fruit, 3) Milk, 4) Electricity, 5) Accommodation, 6) Transport, 7) Training then perhaps these people would improve their diets and their potential. Allowing them to get a weekly pool of money that can be used for booze, cigs, pokies and junk food is inappropriate. Think of the ultimate saving 20 years later when these kids are adults with less obesity, less diabetes, less heart disease, and a better education.	Paul.Cov (425)
1301773	2012-09-18 10:53:00	Back to the traditional diet. Baked Missionary.	R2x1 (4628)
1301774	2012-09-18 11:48:00	I remember during the 1950s we were given half a pint of milk during the morning break. The milk was quite often left in the sun and by the time the milk monitors brought it in it was warm.	Bobh (5192)
1301775	2012-09-18 12:20:00	I remember during the 1950s we were given half a pint of milk during the morning break. The milk was quite often left in the sun and by the time the milk monitors brought it in it was warm. Same here, I remember kids spewing after drinking the warm milk which had been sitting in the Sun for hours, this was in Northern Rhodesia so the Sun was intense the hot air heated it since early morning and the milk was off by then. We only ever wore short sleeves and khaki shorts all through the year very rarely a thin jersey in the early morning chill for a short time. We used to get a free Pint bottle. Sometimes the birds would peck through the silver tops and drink some milk.	zqwerty (97)
1301776	2012-09-18 20:01:00	Personally I blame the lazy parents. And likely their habits too I don't mean lazy because they can't find a job; but lazy with their groceries and budget.. "oh we'll buy our kids 6 bags of chips for their lunches with powerade; rather than a loaf of bread and I'll make their lunch" I watched the John Campbell thing on starving kids; and noted that some of the poor kids had large bags of chips and Gatorade as a lunch. Combined I am guessing a cost of approx $4. Per week - $20. Enough for 7-8 loaves of bread, jar of jam, margarine, and a little fruit. All budget of course.. not name brands. I remember the days of our house living on a combined income of $400 (inc the Families govt help). With that we had to pay rent ($180) look after a baby - SWMBO had to do clothe nappies and all the hassle associated with that to save money), baby formula (SWMBO could not provide enough) etc etc + a teenager who had been booted from school. I was studying that year. And even when I did get a job after study, it was minimum wage... and I had to ensure I had enough money to run the car back and forth to work. But we survived.. baby is now a non-stop talkative but very healthy 8 year old, teenager is now in full-time work and living away from home. We got through by thinking about every dollar we had to spend... and this is what these parents need to do I will concede their are likely some worthy causes which do need help, and for these kids I do feel sorry. How to help them?? Throwing money at the parents does not necessarily feed the kids...	Myth (110)
1301777	2012-09-18 20:01:00	Have to say I was horrified how many tables had no lunch on at all. And some of the ones that did, in the poor school, what crap is that??! Snack cookies, snack crackers. It's not cheap. A cheap rubbish loaf of bread is $1.59. What about a marmite or vegemite sandwich??? Boring but that would cost what - $1.65 at most? Or a banana? What it is, I'd say, is a lot of people have no idea how to cook or make food. Even the richer ones, I see their trolleys in the supermarket and it is full of readymade things - I don't mean just junk, but packets, jars and stuff for throw it in the pot meals. It's a lot cheaper - and tastes better usually - if you make it yourself. Even at work, the number of people there who couldn't cook was amazing. One, she used to eat out every day for dinner, lunch she'd bring some fruit, but then always readymade noodles and stuff. She was asian - how hard is a stir fry?	pctek (84)
1301778	2012-09-18 20:32:00	Nice idea Terry but who will pay for it? Left wing LITP people do not concern themselves with such trivial questions. Living in the past.	Cicero (40)
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