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Thread ID: 29572	2003-01-25 01:06:00	Cable or adsl	Murray P (44)	Press F1

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116429	2003-01-26 06:30:00	USB puts quite an overhead on the CPU, plus its not an external modem/router in that sense (although some are USB or Ethernet, and as Ethernet would be OK). Don't get me wrong, the USB will work but its the equivalent of an internal one. Best to stick with a common one, I use an Alcatel Speedtouch Pro, not sure they are still sold though.	godfather (25)
116430	2003-01-26 06:35:00	Stay away from USB or internal adsl modems. Buy a router as this makes multiple computer (networked) access much easier and doesn't put any processing load on your computer. If you are only going to have two ot three computers, get a router with built in network hub. Even if you plan to have just one desktop and a laptop, networking will be useful. Add kid's computers and a network becomes essential for shared internet access. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
116431	2003-01-26 06:57:00	I would go for cable with a hub myself I am in wainuiomata and have a hub for sale if you need one	kiwibeat (304)
116432	2003-01-26 08:06:00	I don't have teenagers any more; in fact I don't have anyone else at home except my wife, and she is a full time school teacher, so we don't clash on computer/telephone use, especially now she can work on the laptop with the wireless connection if I am on the other beast . I acknowledge that our needs are different from a family with teenagers, and for us, one line is more than sufficient . Thinks - my youngest is coming home from England next month and will be with us for a couple of months . . . However, she is so used to using her cellphone in Pongolia, I suspect that is what she will continue to do, and she can use the laptop during the day for email . I hope . . . I agree with the points being made that the customer contact is vital and that family needs have to be catered for separately . My work is national rather than local, so most people who call me related to my work are making toll calls, and don't want to keep calling or leaving messages on Call Minder . Regarding the other point about what kind of modem, router, hub, switch etc - I bought my Nokia Ni500 when there was a special deal on involving free installation and support . There wasn't much choice on the market then anyway (that model of Nokia has since gone off the market) . When I later built an ethernet LAN, I had to buy a switch (or hub) . If I was starting again, I would buy a router and therefore cut out the need for the switch . My understanding is that some routers act as a hardware firewall as well, but I may be talking through a hole in my head on that point . At least that is what I was told about the more expensive Nokia model available at the time (that I decided I could not afford) . I think I read somewhere that it is best to have an external modem because of the heat they generate, and mine certainly generates heat . . . Maybe someone else could comment on that . Anyway I like the pretty lights on an external modem that let you know when Telecom stuffs up and pulls the pin (though that doesn't happen as much as it used to) . There were also major problems with the Nokia at the beginning - the installer went through two modems that were faulty (similar numbers made it look like a faulty batch) . The third one has been fine . The lights on an external modem can give you a good indication of what is going on (or not going on) . Not sure how you sort this out with an internal . Best wishes John H	John H (8)
116433	2003-01-26 10:20:00	Might take you up in that Kiwi, just over the hill. Ethernet it is then and a hub. Have seen a Dynalink RTA210 ADSL router for sale on one of my fav sites anybody heard the lowdown on these beasties. There's also a Linksys BEFSR41 ROUTER 10/00 with 4 port switch but sounds a bit beafy for me and still need a modem apparently. Both look to be in the $150-200 range /each. They still sell the Speed Touch Pro G.F. over $400- though. Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
116434	2003-01-26 10:27:00	Me again Just spotted a D-Link DSL-504 external ADSL Router 4-Port 10/100. Looks like it could get beyond my $$. Any thoughts on these? Thanks Murray P	Murray P (44)
116435	2003-01-27 02:58:00	mmmmm........ Cable nice... you get a fixed IP which is real usefull if you want to run your own webserver. I have had it for 18 months plus now. There were token problems with a few moments down time in the last few months during maintanance, and a bit of a trying period several months back, but generally it is the perfect allways on system that gives my network 100% connectivity I run a Linux box as a gateway for the other computer.. a very reliable arrangement! .Clueless	Clueless (181)
116436	2003-01-29 20:35:00	Kiwibeat . What brand & model is that hub . Telstra tell me I can't do adsl with their packages, just cable 256k minimum . So, reviewing my options re lines, etc, but may be cheaper (sort term) to go cable . BTW, is that you I'm bidding against on a Compaq Deskpro PII 350/4 . 3GB/64MB/NIC/Sound on trademe? Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
116437	2003-01-30 00:29:00	Murray P >Telstra tell me I can't do adsl with their packages, just cable 256k minimum. I suspect they have a new monkey on the desk that is not fully trained. I have a 128k 10gig connection, and this is still fully available via cable. Yes they dont do DSL, Their phones are phones apart from dail up. Cable is the only option for speed on a Telstra connection.	Clueless (181)
116438	2003-01-30 00:37:00	Yes but..., checking up on Telstra, they charge $17 a month for the rent of a cable modem, thats a lot and a rip off. Just waiting for ADSL to come to north of Upper Hutt, should be in a few days now. Gave up on Telstra/Clear/Saturn or whatever they call themselves now. 3 years ago we had a leaflet saying they would be in our area with cable within a few weeks, then another about 2 years ago, but we are still waiting.	Terry Porritt (14)
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