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117346 2003-01-30 10:33:00 I just added a second (80 Gb) HDD to my system, (P4 2.0, Asus P4S533, 300 watt Power Supply, XP home). It now fails to boot 9 times out of ten, i.e. whirring but not even any video, and sometimes comes up with a BIOS error regarding "Improper frequency combination".
I changed the Video card at the same time (replaced Radeon AIW 8500 with Radeon 7500) . I have four PCI cards running and 1 DVD ROM.
Is power supply a likely problem?

PS, I've tried disconnecting the new HDD drive - same problem.
Just tried removing some (previously problematic) RAM, no joy
Now I'm starting to worry about my motherboard!

Help
Taneat (1644)
117347 2003-01-30 11:18:00 Time to go backwards.
With the new setup, has it booted to desktop at all?
Is the new ram DDR or SDRam?
If it's DDR is it the same rating as the old stuff?
There will be a jumper on the board or a setting in the BIOS to change it if it's a higher rating.
First thing I'd do is get into the BIOS & set it to it's default settings.
If it won't even get to post, locate the jumper on the board for clearing the bios & reverting it to default.
Still no go?
Detach the new Hard drive, put the old video card back in.
Try some other ram, new stuff has been known to be faulty.
Check thoroughly for any loose connections you may have knocked while installing the new gear.

As far as the power supply goes, running all the gear you are probably needs a 350watt min. preferably a 400watt although it should still boot.
How much have changed since the OS was installed, XP will only let you change so much hardware then it throws a wobbly, don't know if it will stop it booting or just make you reactivate, might pay to check that out.
Good Luck.
Stumped Badly (348)
117348 2003-01-30 22:33:00 I disagree that you don't have enough power. It could be the case if your monitor gets its power for the PSU in your case. Otherwise you should be fine.
Remembering that all devices would have to be running at maximum to reach your maximum wattage usage.

Turning your computer on wouldn't result in a 300w drain from your devices.
roofus (483)
117349 2003-01-30 23:30:00 Thanks for your help folks.
I removed and replaced everything incrementally and its definately the video card which is causing the problem. Its ticking over nicely now with the old (actually much newer and higher spec) vid card, all the RAM and the extra HDD.
The reason I replaced the video card was to have a genuine dual VGA out. The AIW 8500 only outputs to my TV via svideo and the picture is crap. As my TV has vga input the 7500 gave an excellent picture at 640 x 480 with a monitor operating at higher resolution simultaneously.
As I said initially, it occasionally boots ok and, once booted, runs great with either card. The boot problems appear to happen well before windows gets its grubby hands on the process.

So the original question, slightly modified, remains.
Do you think the system is running low on power or is the video card likely to be faulty?
Taneat (1644)
117350 2003-02-21 10:18:00 The Saga continues: The system, with either video card, hangs for extended periods during boot (5-20 mins) but eventually does boot and then runs fine. The BIOS error mentioned above occurs if I press the reset button while its hanging.
I've changed the power supply (420W). All my RAM is legend DDR PC 2700.
I've seen reference to other ASUS mboards being unable to run more than 2 DIMMs of PC 2700, my manual says no more than "4 banks".
The funny thing is that it runs great once it has booted.
Any ideas?
Taneat (1644)
117351 2003-02-21 12:39:00 Hi Taneat,

I too have come across information for a number of motherboards not being able to handle more than two sticks of PC2700/3200 RAM. Each side of the RAM is a bank.

One motherboard (Gigabyte?) suggests using the first and third slot when using the 2700/3200 RAM sticks. The Asus A7S333 seems to imply that you should limit yourself to two slots and also goes on to say.....

Use only the tested and qualified PC2700-DDR333 DIMMs listed below. Other DDR DIMM manufactured by other vendors may not be suitable for this motherboard.

Vendor Type Size Model
Nanya PC2700 256MB NT5DS16M8AT-6
Samsung PC2700 128MB K4H280838D-TCB3
Samsung PC2700 256MB K4H280838D-TCB3
Micron PC2700 128MB MT8VDDT1664AG-335B1
Micron PC2700 256MB MT16VDDT1664AG-335B1
KINGMAX PC2700 128MB MPMA82D-68KX3
KINGMAX PC2700 256MB MPM62D-68KX3
Gorela (901)
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