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| 117283 | 2003-01-30 07:02:00 | We have two computers, one with WinXP and the other Win98. Both have LAN cards installed, and are connected by a 'blue cable' (sorry, do not know the name of the cable type). Currently I am reading through PF1 FAQ on setting up a LAN. WinXP shows the LAN connection in the system tray, with the Mbs. Both computers have the green lights glowing by the LAN sockets (although the Win98 has just one of the two lights glowing). I have run the Network set up wizard on both 'puters. But the end result is that files cannot be shared. The Win98 'puter does not indicate a LAN connection (as the WinXP does). A friend of mine says that we need to use a hub, costing $100 - $150. However, I have heard that a cross-over cable could be used instead of the hub. Is this true? We will only connect these two computers and no others. Thanks. BTW, it is nice to be able to log on and be recognised once again, other than 'guest' :) |
Steve_L (763) | ||
| 117284 | 2003-01-30 07:09:00 | Ok first thing first, have you setup both computers with indivdual IP addresses? I suggest 192.168.1.1 for XP and then 192.168.1.2 for the win 98 PC. Then with the cable connected trying pinging each other. If you dont get any ping then yer you do need a cross over cable because the one you have isnt a cross over cable. You can get cross over adapters wich will save you forking out for a new cable. Once you get that and you can ping each computer i suggest you read this: "www.annoyances.org because XP is a pain in the ass to network to Win9x. good luck |
demonmors (1299) | ||
| 117285 | 2003-01-30 07:41:00 | Is the WinXP formatted as NTFS? That would cause file sharing problems, trying to access from the Win98 machine. | wotz (335) | ||
| 117286 | 2003-01-30 08:14:00 | There are no file sharing problems between NTFS and FAT systems, its all taken care of by the Network interface software. | godfather (25) | ||
| 117287 | 2003-01-30 08:53:00 | Yes - all you need if you have 2 PC's, is a crossover cable . Look at a plug/socket/converter if you want, howver I wasn't able to get one any cheaper than it was just to but a new cable (depends on how long you want it I guess) . I linked my XP machine with my Win 98 machine with no issues . Run your XP disc in the Win 98 machine and select 'Other Tasks' (or something like that) and follow the prompts . Ensure the machine you use is connected to the net first if you wish to share internet, and disable firealls initially if you use one . You can configure the firewall to work later . I have since added a hub and another PC, using Win 95 (gulp lol) but that worked fine too - they all see each other, net is available on all, and I can use the web cam in the office to see what's happening in the lounge! J . :D |
Jester (13) | ||
| 117288 | 2003-02-01 20:15:00 | . . . . . OK . . . . . finally able to log in . . . . . . . . I hope . . . . . . . . Replies: 1 . Yes, the IP addresses have been sorted out, as per PF1 FAQs . I am currently looking at the 'annoyances' page . . . . a great resource, detailed . . . . thanks . 2 . The NTFS vs FAT issues seems to persist, and it fooled me last week until I was put straight (that it is not an issue, to link Win98 and WinXP) . 3 . I have not yet tried to run the XP disk on my Win98 . Will do . Need cross over cable first . Wow - you got Win95 linked as well - good going! I am actually linking 2 computers here at home, also at work . The work 'puters are back to back so the cable length is less than a metre . Cheers, Steve_L |
Steve_L (763) | ||
| 117289 | 2003-02-01 20:32:00 | > > 2 . The NTFS vs FAT issues seems to persist, and it > fooled me last week until I was put straight (that it > is not an issue, to link Win98 and WinXP) . > Yes - Its basically like both drives talk different languages, one speaks spanish and the other german, but when the data passes through the Network card, the both get translated into English! That way - it doesnt matter what the file system is, windows reads it and sends the data down the pipe in a sort of uniform format I guess . . :-) Hope this makes sense . > 3 . I have not yet tried to run the XP disk on my > Win98 . Will do . Need cross over cable first . Wow - > you got Win95 linked as well - good going! I am > actually linking 2 computers here at home, also at > work . The work 'puters are back to back so the cable > length is less than a metre . Can you not run a networking wizard from XP and put that in the 98 PC? Ive just got XP a few days back and when setting it up I saw a wizard . Make sure you open My Computer (on XP) and -Tools -Folder Options -View and right down the bottom is somethig about simple file-sharing enabled, untick that box . Another thing Right-Click on My Computer on the XP box and select Manage . Go Local Users and Groups and then into the Users folder . Make a user with the same name that you'll be logging into the 98 box with so it can access the XP box . Hope this helps - I know how difficult XP can be :) Cheers Chilling_Silence |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 117290 | 2003-02-04 02:53:00 | <<Can you not run a networking wizard from XP and put that in the 98 PC?>> Hello 'Chilling', FINALLY I am able to log in. Whew! Going through PF1 withdrawal symptoms! Anyway.... yes, I did the network wizard thing, and it loaded correctly on both puters. And I did the file-sharing and same network name thing as well. So I am waiting for our office to get a cross over cable to replace the blue cable. Then I will fiddle around and see if the puters will share. If not, I guess that we may need a hub. Probably next week will give us the result. Stay tuned. Thanks for the suggestions. Cheers, Steve_L |
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