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Thread ID: 29673	2003-01-29 03:48:00	Windows VS Linux	Baldy (26)	Press F1

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117042	2003-02-05 11:02:00	> For those who have been using Linux for a wee while > now, what does Linux do, that Windows can't. What does Windows do, thet Linux can't? There's no saying which one is the best. Each has it's pros and cons. it's like: Desktop brand X VS Desktop brand Y. Newspaper X VS Newspaper Y. A Tree VS An Oak tree. Pen VS Pencil. Just get the OS(es) you want.	higbvuyb17 (3081)
117043	2003-02-05 19:32:00	> A Tree VS An Oak tree. Err... Where do bushes and shrubs come into it?? ;-) :D	Chilling_Silence (9)
117044	2003-02-05 19:44:00	i thought i'd move this to the right thread now that it belongs to the non squabbling sensible party :p I run '98 and SuSE on 2 almost identical machines. Both machines are 450meg AMD on a VA503 motherboard with 256meg of RAM. Both have really minamal graphics cards. Vanessa (98) has a Zip drive, a CDRW, a 20gig HDD, and a 40 gig HDD and one network card Sam (SuSE) has an 80gig HDD, Sam also has the worlds worst graphics card, and 2 network cards. My network runs like this: Cable modem-----Sam----Hub----Vanessa. Observations: 1/Reliability/Stabilit y Sam just goes, and goes and goes. I would recomend Linux for ANY machine that is going to be used as a gateway, or for a central storage point that might be used over a network, be it a shared "drive" a webserver, ftp server or the such like. It is extreemly stable. Vanessa on the other hand has a tendancy to freeze and/or give me a BSOD if i leave it running 24/7. 2/Compatibility with "programs" Well i cant run photoshop on Linux, but i am learning "GIMP" which actually does most of what i use image manipulation programs for. Games tend to be windows orientated. As i am not a gamer this doesn't bother me. I have sufficiant programmes in Linux to make it that Sam is the machine i use 80% of the time. 3/Ease of conversion. I chose the name "Clueless" when i reached into Linux world. I think that says it all, I still have a L-O-N-G way to go. Having said that 80% linux shows that it wasn't that hard so far. I look forward to moving the CDRW, and comparing the Linux programmes with Nero. This will make me about 90% Linux 4/Slickness Comparing SuSE to 98 it has far more eyecandy (which is what it calls it) Eye candy is comparible to any recent windows system, including XP, but can be toned down for people like me running it on a slug. As i am reluctant to do this, i watch the machine fail to bring everything on screen at good speed. This is probably a relection on the machine, but i mention it anyway. By default slickness aint that grand, but we can play with the colors, the preveiw modes, the pick of icons, the wallpaper, all that good stuff, and make it as slick as we see fit. It also has a wee slide control in the settings for KDE (the graphics user interface i use) that decides what priority to give slickness, so that i can ensure that its not going to be spitting dummys on esentuals just to give me a slick screen. 5/Built in browser Konqueror is built into SuSE (and probably most distributions) It is the only browser that fully works with chatf1 which does not have good software server side. IE cannot remember my choice of color, but konquorer can. Java tricks etc with konquorer don't always work, but on the other hand it doesnt want to "debug" all the time either. My better half put together this site: http://answer42.orcon.net.nz which was her playing with java and such like.. Great tricks but konqueror wont display it all. On the other hand IE wont handle <color=null> which is a great tag used by this forum to randomise the colors of titles. 6/ Trust .net microsofts latest toy has "trusted files", what that will ultimitly mean it that untrusted files wont run. At risk of sounding paraniod, i suspect that many "untrusted" files will be politacaly sensitive. 7/Controlability Linux wins here hands down, it was designed for and by people who are happy to type commands at the system, and the user freindly graphics interface is just a recent addition that make Linux workable for the point and click end user, which is basicly what i am. .Clueless	Clueless (181)
117045	2003-02-05 19:54:00	So photoshop doesnt run.. What about under Wine or Wine-X???	Chilling_Silence (9)
117046	2003-02-05 20:01:00	and further while i'm here 8/Games SuSE8 comes with more games in more catagorys than i can count.. unfortunatly most of them are far too slick for my video card 'doze comes with a few card games or something. Chill.... i dont know about wine.. i use a 'doze box for 'doze based programs maybe i should give it a go. .Clueless	Clueless (181)
117047	2003-02-05 20:28:00	Nice analysis +ves of linux there clueless. Although i do kinda disagree with 5) where you talk about konqeor yes indeed it can display some java tricks that IE can't but your comments that IE wants to debug all the time etc etc are because you havn't configured IE properly. What do you mean its the only browser that works with chatF1 i've been there before and it worked fine with me? and im using IE6 IMHO rendering a page how its ment to look is more important than java tricks. but i'm not trying to knock your comments in anyway	roofus (483)
117048	2003-02-05 20:59:00	Roofus, IE couldn't remember i type purple noot black, so it only got a 95% rating. In all fairness, i only use IE when i'm in Greymouth, as that is what Dyan has on her windows machine. As for your comment about konqueror handling some java that IE can't... Do tell, i'm very interested. A valid email address for me exsists in my profile if that gets a bit too of topic. .Clueless	Clueless (181)
117049	2003-02-05 22:33:00	> I like AMD too.. But that's coz it > costs less, and they are also more optimised for > WinXP (Hence the XP on the end...). Ha hahaa!	BIFF (1)
117050	2003-02-05 23:44:00	I find rather amusing that people who use a particular product/service/software tend to defend it i.e. ask a programmer what the best editor is, usually its the one he/she knows best and they will defend it to the end if anyone criticises it. And often is gets personal. Like the classic Ford vs Holden debate. They are just cars produced by a company who are out to make money. I can't help thinking that companies like us to do that because if its "the best" (in peoples minds) people will buy it. Its like whats in fashion. If a company can create the impression that you need something to impress your friends/peers etc, people will go and buy it and they might make some money. PC are consumer products now and are subject to marketing hype etc. Whatever happened to OS/2 :D	Dolby Digital (160)
117051	2003-02-06 00:55:00	That sounds remarkably like you are describing the WinXP senario there. How many people were happily chugging along with WinME / Win98 or whatever, only to race out and upgrade to XP following the XPerience hype from the M$ marketers	Horses Hoof (3080)
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