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117203	2003-01-29 23:30:00	I run '98 and SuSE on 2 almost identical machines. Both machines are 450meg AMD on a VA503 motherboard with 256meg of RAM. Both have really minamal graphics cards. Vanessa (98) has a Zip drive, a CDRW, a 20gig HDD, and a 40 gig HDD and one network card Sam (SuSE) has an 80gig HDD, Sam also has the worlds worst graphics card, and 2 network cards. My network runs like this: Cable modem-----Sam----Hub----Vanessa. Observations: 1/Reliability/Stability Sam just goes, and goes and goes. I would recomend Linux for ANY machine that is going to be used as a gateway, or for a central storage point that might be used over a network, be it a shared "drive" a webserver, ftp server or the such like. It is extreemly stable. Vanessa on the other hand has a tendancy to freeze and/or give me a BSOD if i leave it running 24/7. 2/Compatibility with "programs" Well i cant run photoshop on Linux, but i am learning "GIMP" which actually does most of what i use image manipulation programs for. Games tend to be windows orientated. As i am not a gamer this doesn't bother me. I have sufficiant programmes in Linux to make it that Sam is the machine i use 80% of the time. 3/Ease of conversion. I chose the name "Clueless" when i reached into Linux world. I think that says it all, I still have a L-O-N-G way to go. Having said that 80% linux shows that it wasn't that hard so far. I look forward to moving the CDRW, and comparing the Linux programmes with Nero. This will make me about 90% Linux 4/Slickness Comparing SuSE to 98 it has far more eyecandy (which is what it calls it) Eye candy is comparible to any recent windows system, including XP, but can be toned down for people like me running it on a slug. As i am reluctant to do this, i watch the machine fail to bring everything on screen at good speed. This is probably a relection on the machine, but i mention it anyway. By default slickness aint that grand, but we can play with the colors, the preveiw modes, the pick of icons, the wallpaper, all that good stuff, and make it as slick as we see fit. It also has a wee slide control in the settings for KDE (the graphics user interface i use) that decides what priority to give slickness, so that i can ensure that its not going to be spitting dummys on esentuals just to give me a slick screen. 5/Built in browser Konqueror is built into SuSE (and probably most distributions) It is the only browser that fully works with chatf1 which does not have good software server side. IE cannot remember my choice of color, but konquorer can. Java tricks etc with konquorer don't always work, but on the other hand it doesnt want to "debug" all the time either. My better half put together this site: http://answer42.orcon.net.nz which was her playing with java and such like.. Great tricks but konqueror wont display it all. On the other hand IE wont handle <color=null> which is a great tag used by this forum to randomise the colors of titles. 6/ Trust .net microsofts latest toy has "trusted files", what that will ultimitly mean it that untrusted files wont run. At risk of sounding paraniod, i suspect that many "untrusted" files will be politacaly sensitive. 7/Controlability Linux wins here hands down, it was designed for and by people who are happy to type commands at the system, and the user freindly graphics interface is just a recent addition that make Linux workable for the point and click end user, which is basicly what i am. I hope this helps those want a comparisn based on personal experiance .Clueless	Clueless (181)
117204	2003-01-30 00:04:00	> > 2/Compatibility with "programs" > Well i cant run photoshop on Linux, but i am > learning "GIMP" which actually does most of what i > use image manipulation programs for. Games tend to > be windows orientated. As i am not a gamer this > doesn't bother me. I have sufficiant programmes in > Linux to make it that Sam is the machine i use 80% > of the time. Try Wine-X for games, with supposedly a max of 300% increase on Quake 3 Engine based games :D	Chilling_Silence (9)
117205	2003-01-30 01:30:00	> I run '98 and SuSE on 2 almost identical machines. > Both machines are 450meg AMD on a VA503 motherboard > with 256meg of RAM. Both have really minamal graphics > cards. > Vanessa (98) has a Zip drive, a CDRW, a 20gig HDD, > and a 40 gig HDD and one network card > Sam (SuSE) has an 80gig HDD, Sam also has the worlds > worst graphics card, and 2 network cards. > My network runs like this: > Cable modem-----Sam----Hub----Vanessa. > > Observations: > 1/Reliability/Stability > Sam just goes, and goes and goes. I would recomend > Linux for ANY machine that is going to be used as a > gateway, or for a central storage point that might > be used over a network, be it a shared "drive" a > webserver, ftp server or the such like. It is > extreemly stable. Vanessa on the other hand has a > tendancy to freeze and/or give me a BSOD if i leave > it running 24/7. > > 2/Compatibility with "programs" > Well i cant run photoshop on Linux, but i am > learning "GIMP" which actually does most of what i > use image manipulation programs for. Games tend to > be windows orientated. As i am not a gamer this > doesn't bother me. I have sufficiant programmes in > Linux to make it that Sam is the machine i use 80% > of the time. > > 3/Ease of conversion. > I chose the name "Clueless" when i reached into Linux > world. I think that says it all, I still have a > L-O-N-G way to go. Having said that 80% linux shows > that it wasn't that hard so far. I look forward to > moving the CDRW, and comparing the Linux programmes > with Nero. This will make me about 90% Linux > > 4/Slickness > Comparing SuSE to 98 it has far more eyecandy (which > is what it calls it) > Eye candy is comparible to any recent windows > system, including XP, but can be toned down for > people like me running it on a slug. As i am > reluctant to do this, i watch the machine fail to > bring everything on screen at good speed. This is > probably a relection on the machine, but i mention > it anyway. By default slickness aint that grand, but > we can play with the colors, the preveiw modes, the > pick of icons, the wallpaper, all that good stuff, > and make it as slick as we see fit. It also has a > wee slide control in the settings for KDE (the > graphics user interface i use) that decides what > priority to give slickness, so that i can ensure > that its not going to be spitting dummys on > esentuals just to give me a slick screen. > > 5/Built in browser > Konqueror is built into SuSE (and probably most > distributions) > It is the only browser that fully works with chatf1 > which does not have good software server side. IE > cannot remember my choice of color, but konquorer > can. Java tricks etc with konquorer don't always > work, but on the other hand it doesnt want to "debug" > all the time either. > My better half put together this site: > http://answer42.orcon.net.nz which was her playing > with java and such like.. Great tricks but konqueror > wont display it all. On the other hand IE wont handle > <color=null > which is a great tag used by this forum > to randomise the colors of titles. > > 6/ Trust > .net microsofts latest toy has "trusted files", what > that will ultimitly mean it that untrusted files > wont run. At risk of sounding paraniod, i suspect > that many "untrusted" files will be politacaly > sensitive. > > 7/Controlability > Linux wins here hands down, it was designed for and > by people who are happy to type commands at the > system, and the user freindly graphics interface is > just a recent addition that make Linux workable for > the point and click end user, which is basicly what i > am. > > I hope this helps those want a comparisn based on > personal experiance > .Clueless Great answer. Very impressive. All the info I needed really. Thanks Chris - very much appreciate the effort and thought that you put into it. BALDY:-) At least when I install Linux, I won't be pulling my hair out LOL	Baldy (26)
117206	2003-01-30 01:39:00	> Great answer. Very impressive. All the info I needed > really. Thanks Chris - very much appreciate the > effort and thought that you put into it. > > BALDY:-) > > At least when I install Linux, I won't be pulling my > hair out LOL Hehehe, You'd be surprised! Depends on what distro! RedHat 8 has a VERY nice installer compared to any other OS Ive seen!! Mandrake, might be a bit scary.. Lycoris Desktop/LX Pretty good, but just doesnt have quite as fancy graphics as RH8!!!	Chilling_Silence (9)
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