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117022 2003-01-29 08:07:00 > I feel that Graham's comment was a very fair and
> valid one. I've yet to see a discussion about which
> is best NOT turn into a flame war.
>
> It's the same with "AMD vs Intel" and "Nvidia vs
> ATI".

I didn't say BEST, I said BETTER. Theres a subtle difference.

I wasn't trying to start a flame war, I was trying to evaluate one OS against another. Never mind, I will try somewhere else.

Thanks anyway guys 		Baldy (26)
117023 2003-01-29 08:12:00 Its diffent strokes for different folks man, each to his own, and Im with Graham L.

Im happy to discuss the finer points, but for the time being, Im hoping that it'll stay a low-level discussion that doesnt turn out like the one between Crozier, Lo. and Roofus...

Personally, I use Windows 98, 2K, and XP (Yes.. Got a copy today, Its not too bad.. Speed is major over 2K coz Im on an Athlon XP Proccessor), Lycoris, RedHat, and Im wanting to try out Yoper and Mandrake soon... Quite a good balance.

If you're interested in Linux, I made a post earlier today, have a look...

Otherwise.. I'll be watching this thread with interest, and hoping that it doesnt turn out to be a flame war!

Cheers


Chilling_Silence 		Chilling_Silence (9)
117024 2003-01-29 08:16:00 > I wasn't trying to start a flame war, I was trying to
> evaluate one OS against another. Never mind, I will
> try somewhere else.
>

Yes, I understand.. But the thing is that there are some very territorial people around here who might take this thread as a "Lets convert the world to Linux" thread, and wont like it.

Each certainly have their own strong points, the main ones being:
Windows has MAJOR compatibility with pretty much everything being able to run on the OS.
Linux has that ever-so-friendly price tag of $Free!!!
Linux is more customisable, therefore great for servers etc. being able to prevent certain proccesses from loading altogether!
.NET is Fast.. VERY fast in my experience! Probably about 2x as fast as XP is on my AMD Athlon XP 1700+, and faster than RedHat too!!!

it all depends what you're after... If you're wanting to dive into the world of linux, it is a Very, VERY rewarding experience, knowing that you're hosting a Website from your laptop or whatever.. :D

I am still happy to comment, but maybe tomorrow :-)

Cheers


Chilling_Silence 		Chilling_Silence (9)
117025 2003-01-29 08:52:00 For a gateway, or a webserver... Linux, simply because Linux goes and goes and goes like the everready battery.....

For an end user machine you might be better of with 'doze, as it may be better that you have the devil you know. there is still a couple of things i find i can only do in doze :( . Having said that, when i am home in 75% Linux.

.Clueless 		Clueless (181)
117026 2003-01-29 17:12:00 > now, what does Linux do, that Windows can't .
>
> And in what way is one better / worse than the
> other?
>
> BALDY:-)


Linux can not give you the "fatal exception errors" sorry to play the harp again, and I have not needed to give the computer a "hot headed switch off"

One of the biggest problems is when getting into Linux is, The information is
there to help you on the way, but where is it?, meaning it does not seem to be well indexed to find easy, There also seems to be a horrible group of people in linux that cheese you off when you already frustrated getting started, they seem to use the logic "I got into linux all right, so if you have a problem you must be a moron" Something I did not find when I was getting into windows and asked questions .

Sorry I have not answered you question 100% but I hope it does some good . 		E.ric (351)
117027 2003-01-29 19:54:00 WOW Graham, that was out of the blue, especially when you posted in a recent thread about the bad language in this forum, that comment which was delicately written (because you put it in bold) is way worse than some of the other comments made around here.

I think the thread is a fair debatable issue.
One just has to remember that you shouldn't try to force there opinion upon others. Crozier knows all about this!.
I think Chilling or clueless like to try and convince everyone that some OS was better than the other, but since a wee while ago when it was pointed out that there were different strokes for different folks, there hasn't been a problem.
So let the discussion role, just don't try and justify why one is far superior to the other.

My Opinion:
Windows runs millions of applications, which means there are many solutions to your problems.
Linux yes it's stable (but in my past experience wasn't "THAT" stable) but there are no killer app's that makes you want to swap. 		roofus (483)
117028 2003-01-29 20:30:00 > One of the biggest problems is when getting into
> Linux is, The information is
> there to help you on the way, but where is it?,
> meaning it does not seem to be well indexed to find
> easy, There also seems to be a horrible group of
> people in linux that cheese you off when you already
> frustrated getting started, they seem to use the
> logic "I got into linux all right, so if you have a
> problem you must be a moron" Something I did not find
> when I was getting into windows and asked questions .
>

I know the feeling . . . I had major troubles with getting SAMBA going . . Took me ages, and I tried this message board and one or two others and they all said "Follow your nose" and stuff like that which wasnt terribly helpful .

I was hoping for something step-by-step like:

To make a new share, start off with:
[ShareNameHere]

Then underneath, try these:
comment = Comment of the share
path = /tmp
public = yes
read only = no

and make sure that you set the 'Share level = share' or if its user or server or anything, you'll run into more troubles .

However, something useful:
Open a Konsole window and type man smb or the likes . . .

You are right though, I wish the above had been said to me in the first place, and about 4 message boards all said "If you cant do it then you shouldnt be dabbling with Linux" which is not the sort of welcome a n00b wants really!

However, should you find a freindly person who is very knowledgable, you'll find they'll be more than happy to teach you!

I began writing a comparison on the bus today . . Gotta love mobilty computing . . but I wont put it up . . Its not really that great, but I'l see about maybe tonight :-)

From what perspective are you wanting this baldy?

Personally, the majority of servers should be Linux IMHO, coz Clueless was right, its like the Eveready batteries!

Desktops are a little different, which is why I liked Lycoris!

The thing is there's so many flavors of both OS's!!!!

Cheers


Chilling_Silence 		Chilling_Silence (9)
117029 2003-02-04 08:50:00 >One just has to remember that you shouldn't try to force there opinion upon others. Crozier knows all about this!.

You know roofus, you really are an ignorant little sod aren't you. Not only did you and your cronies drive the bloke away but you insist on continuing after he's gone, when he's not here to defend himself - real mature eh?

Let it drop sonny! 		fat & bald (3048)
117030 2003-02-04 09:08:00 > You know roofus, you really are an ignorant little
> sod aren't you. Not only did you and your cronies
> drive the bloke away but you insist on continuing
> after he's gone, when he's not here to defend himself
> - real mature eh?
>
> Let it drop sonny!

What a great example of what not to post in this forum. 		segfault (655)
117031 2003-02-04 09:46:00 Sigh.....

Looks like Graham L was right when he/she ( to be VERY politically correct ) said:-

"There is NO ** POINT in threads about which is best.
That is not the purpose of this site. Such threads cause otherwise reasonable people to behave like very badly brought up children.
If you want to play such games, look at the "advocacy" news groups. But please don't do it here."

I've got to admit that I have seen heaps of these threads and they usually degenerate into something nasty. 		Elephant (599)
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