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Thread ID: 126901	2012-09-24 05:01:00	Rich v Poor..National Standards	Terry Porritt (14)	PC World Chat

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1303033	2012-09-24 05:01:00	Interesting article in todays Dom Post showing how the National Standards results vary between upper and lower decile schools. www.stuff.co.nz No surprises really, one could just as easily conclude (but not allowed to say so..) that the dumbest people have the dumbest children and belong to the poorer classes, whereas wealthier people have greater nous and correspondingly brighter children.......(on the average that is, considering I came from a poor working class family showing exceptions prove the rule :thumbs:) "This highlights the fact that if we want to improve and lift achievement and learning in our schools across all things, then we have to make a really genuine effort to improve equity," Mr Drummond said. "Maybe this will be the catalyst for a stronger Government response around those equity issues. It has been worthwhile in confirming those correlations, but we knew that before national standards." ..... says Mr Drummond, Principals Federation president....maybe he should learn the difference between equity and equality. Anyway having thrown down a bone, let the dogs from right and left loose to fight over it :lol:	Terry Porritt (14)
1303034	2012-09-24 05:38:00	I guess this equity was an inevitable result of all those steakeholders in the business that are a bit on the outer now that vegetarians have equal rights. Sadly, there seems to be a bit of a trend to allocate equity somewhat unevenly between teachers and students, the students being the armed wing of the Ministry.	R2x1 (4628)
1303035	2012-09-24 05:48:00	You can pour all the money you want into education of young kids, but you still can't improve their home environment. Which kid is likely to do better? The one who shares reading a book each night with a parent, or the kid threatened with bodily injury if they don't go to sleep? I've seen way too many parents of low decile kids who do all their parenting sitting on their fat backsides yelling orders and threats at their kids. "Come here / Sit down or I'll kill you" being a typical example of the crass parenting I hear from some of the locals.	Paul.Cov (425)
1303036	2012-09-24 05:56:00	Was the Equity accompanied by Good Conscience? ;)	B.M. (505)
1303037	2012-09-24 06:15:00	Just proves that kids in poorer areas need a decent meal to learn.	KarameaDave (15222)
1303038	2012-09-24 20:26:00	one could just as easily conclude that the dumbest people have the dumbest children and belong to the poorer classes But one would be wrong. Money does not equate to smarts. Poor kids may do badly but that can be due to the lack of after school activities, the lack of lunch, and lack of motivation - not being encouraged. My son went to a school not known for smart kids, he was very smart......despite the schools obsessive focus on sports only. What the kid then does with that smartness is up to them....	pctek (84)
1303039	2012-09-24 21:50:00	Just proves that kids in poorer areas need a decent meal to learn. Kim Dotcom to head Mensa ;)	R2x1 (4628)
1303040	2012-09-24 23:06:00	I dunno, I'm more surprised that even in the higher decile schools we still have so many that fail the basics.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1303041	2012-09-24 23:30:00	Pctek seems sure there is no correlation between low socioeconomic status and academic abilty, others seem convinced poor achievement in the 3 Rs is due to lack of food. Interestingly then, we UK wartime children should have been the dumbest generation as our wartime food ration allowances were pretty meagre to say the least, and our staple diet seemed to consist of bread and dripping, or toast and dripping. That was what most children took to school if they were not having school dinners. We did have orange juice and cod liver oil supplements as well as a daily 1/3 pint of milk at school. We were actually rated as being the healthiest generation.	Terry Porritt (14)
1303042	2012-09-24 23:36:00	At least you got those foodstuffs, Terry, some of these children don't, it would seem. I think Kim Dotcom is an extremely intelligent gent, he's got the Shonkey Donkey on the back foot, anyway. :p	KarameaDave (15222)
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