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119792 2003-02-09 21:51:00 A couple of years ago I installed Mandrake on my puter. No problems. It installed properly and when it booted I had the option of booting to Mandrake or windows 98. I only got rid of it because I could not get drivers for my scanner or printer.
Last week I decided to give Linux another chance. I purchased SuSe 8.0 professional. 8 cd's and 3 manuals. Of course I was in to much of a hurry to install it and didn't read the manuals thoroughly. It installed well and I liked what I saw. BUT then I decided to see what it had done to win XP. What win XP? it had disappeared from my comp. Gone Vanished. Now I read the manual and found out Linux won't work with windows XP on an NTFS formatted hard drive.
So remove Linux ,reformat hard drive and re-install XP. And that wasn't as easy at it sounds.
I had a brainwave in bed last night and got up at 3 am. I removed my hard disk and put in another one I happened to have. I deleted everything on if and formatted it to Fat 32.
I inserted SuSe and let it set it's own defaults. and then did a standard install. After it had finished the first disk I got a message that it had to reboot and to remove all disks fron all drives.
I did this but when the machine rebooted Linux wouldnt start. Disk 2 did nothing. the only wat to boot was to install disk 1. Of course this resulted in in a complete re-install. Then same thing over again, and again. I tried doing an install into "safe mode", but same result.
What am I doing wrong? Or Is SuSe just being contankerous?
What do I do next?
At present I have my windows disk installed. And Suse and her disks and manuals are spread accross the floor.
Anyone got any ideas? Don't suggest throwing out my Linux disks. They cost too much
Jack
JJJJJ (528)
119793 2003-02-09 22:05:00 8 CDs????

mine was 7 CDs and one DVD (actually the DVD was missing, the surplus CDs were sent down from overseas for us poor kiwis to use)
Disk one is the basic system, disc 2-7 are all the add in programms that you may or may not want, be they servers games, office utilitys, whatever

I would install SuSE first, and allow a good size "windows" partition which is where you install XP
When you boot up with SuSE it will give you the option of which OS you wish to use.

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
119794 2003-02-09 22:33:00 Yor are right. 7 cd's and 1 DVD. I hadn't got that far.
Yes ,but at the moment I can't get it to load without the cd in the drive. Then when it has to reboot it's the sme process over again. When I had it running all the basics were on disk 1, except passwords and printers,etc. It actualy asked for disk 2 after the reboot.
JJJJJ (528)
119795 2003-02-09 22:41:00 JJJJJ,
i had someone bring the disks round and help with the installation. Unfortunatly this means that i cant remember anything that could possibly lead to your problem.
JoGiles and Jen C have both installed SuSE.. perhaps they could help you?

.Clueless
Clueless (181)
119796 2003-02-09 23:03:00 JJJJJ,

The only reason I can think that SuSE won't boot from the hard disk is if you haven't set LILO to write to the mbr . This can sometimes lead to the situation you are having .

I wouldn't have thought that you would have had any problems running a dual boot with XP, but I only have linux dual booting WinME and on another machine a dual boot with Win2K .

When dual booting SuSE will ask if you want to write to the mbr OR create a boot disk . The second option is what I have on the WinME, while the first is what I have with the 2K . Covering all the bases as it were :)

As it doesn't appear to be writing to the mbr after the first disk has been installed quickly insert the second disk and this will enable the reat of the installation to continue . At the end definitely create a boot disk to be on the safe side :)

I had a similar problem with an old machine which had a wonky video card . The screen would go some crazy colour and you couldn't read it . Did the above and everything is sweet . I'll look into the reboot as well . . . . . .
Gorela (901)
119797 2003-02-10 00:42:00 Hey JJJJJ, as Clueless said, I've installed SuSE, and I managed to come through relatively unscathed.

If you give me an update on where you are with it now, i'll see if I can help any furthur.

ciao,
JoGiles
JoGiles (1898)
119798 2003-02-10 04:34:00 Hi JJJJJ

When I installed SuSE 8, I put it on a slave drive with Windows ME on the master. The first two disks are required for the standard installation of SuSE 8. Just following the on screen instructions about when to reboot or add the second disk (I installed without a manual and did OK).

LILO was automatically added to my MBR without any prompts from me, perhaps because it had detected a second OS already installed.

Try partitioning your HDD, installing XP on its partition first and leave the rest of the HDD unformated for linux to work with. Then install SuSE, making sure to select the option of using the unformatted partition. This way you should end up with LILO being installed into the MBR, and when starting up, you will get the options of either SuSE or Windows to boot up.

I am still learning linux (and the installation process), so wait until someone else confirms the installation order/process will work OK before ripping in to it again. :-)
Jen C (20)
119799 2003-02-10 05:28:00 I chopped my 60 gig hard drive up into 3 * 8 Gig (That was the highest size before it went to the next cluster size) formating just 2 partitions for FAT32, that made it 2 * 8 Gig for Windoze, and leavening the rest for Linux, 1 * 8 Gig partition for the /home partition, this worked well, as I went from one Linux version to another, it left all my /home information intact . However life was short, and with another change in Linux version I lost the /home partition information,
:(

I think I lost it, by being in a hurry and not reading the installation instructions at the right time as it was getting installed .

I hope someone learns by my mistake, I might try it again one day .
E.ric (351)
119800 2003-02-10 05:36:00 What do you mean XP is vanished?

Did you format the whole drive removing XP?

or was Suse installed on it's own partition.

Does Suse have a bootloader? If so which one is it using?

If XP still exists and is somewhere on the drive. Then just repair the MBR by booting into DOS and typing /fix mbr or is it mbr /fix or another command fdisk /mbr. That's remove the Linux MBR and replace it back with Windows MBR so XP will load but you won't be able to get into Suse without a bootdisk. But once XP is loaded... remove the Suse partitions and reinstall it but this time properly.
Kame (312)
119801 2003-02-10 20:16:00 The XP Boot Loader is installed on the first sector of the HDD - or something similar.

I installed RedHat last night, so now Im running (on a 10 gig HDD) something like this:
|Win2K Install|WinXP Install|RedHat|
(Sizes approx)
Now 2K was installed and then XP so I dunno which BL its using, prolly is the same between OS's.
I installed RH and it comes up in GRUB with:
Linux
DOS
now when I select DOS, then it comes up with the XP/2K Boot loader.

Have you tried using the DOS (if SuSE configured it) option in the boot loader?
Chilling_Silence (9)
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