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Thread ID: 30068 2003-02-09 21:17:00 Paradises super tuff proxy, and it's problems Clueless (181) Press F1
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119778 2003-02-10 04:08:00 > IMHO they should give the user the option of using it
> - not forcing all the traffic thru it!

All sounds fine until the prices go up ;) 		-=JM=- (16)
119779 2003-02-10 04:56:00 Big John..
Go to whatismyip.com
Asuming you are a paradise customer it will be 203.98.49.150

I could forward you email excerts from paradise techs saying how they have agreed to remove chatf1.net.nz and farr.net.nz from their proxy. You could also talk to Liam who saw paradise customers by the same IP since he set up chatf1, presumably he will now see us by our true IPs
No points for guessing what this IP would be.

There ARE proxys their are no easy ways round them, and if you know a failsafe way round them.. LET US KNOW

.Clueless 		Clueless (181)
119780 2003-02-10 05:00:00 I'm not against proxy's either, if it saves the ISP money then in the long run should save you money (or at least stop price hikes concerned with data). However if a proxy is used then it needs to be as transparent as technologically possible and well maintained, and should also NOT cache pages that use dynamic content. If all those things were done then there should not be a problem, however in this case paradise had neglected one or many of the above, which has caused the problem, and in reality being that the proxy server is a (if not the) key part of the network it should have a high priority for all aspects of its operation, (of course this isin't an ideal world, but its nice to dream :D).


Cheers

Liam 		nz_liam (845)
119781 2003-02-10 05:03:00 Also if the ip ends in 151 then it is also a proxy, they have more than one. nz_liam (845)
119782 2003-02-10 05:12:00 Heres a list of all the users that have connected to chatf1 through proxy servers;

A_Dent
Feb 6, 2003 - 07:47 pm
p203.98.50.150

Chris
Jan 13, 2003 - 08:12 pm
p203.98.48.151

Chris
Jan 13, 2003 - 08:12 pm
p203.98.48.151

Dru
Jan 20, 2003 - 11:24 pm
p203.98.48.151

Fishb8
Nov 18, 2002 - 02:58 am
p203.167.239.242

FreddyII
Jan 8, 2003 - 08:09 pm
p203.98.48.151

go-seki
Nov 14, 2002 - 03:33 pm
p203.97.1.158

gorela
Feb 5, 2003 - 09:20 pm
p203.98.48.151

katt
Feb 4, 2003 - 11:16 pm
p203.98.48.151

laurie
Feb 8, 2003 - 11:20 pm
p203.98.50.150

laurie
Feb 8, 2003 - 11:20 pm
p203.98.50.150

seki
Nov 14, 2002 - 03:36 pm
p203.97.1.158

teddybear
Feb 1, 2003 - 08:20 pm
p203.98.48.151

tweak'e
Feb 7, 2003 - 10:21 pm
p203.98.48.151


Now if that isin't proof enough, then what is. 		nz_liam (845)
119783 2003-02-10 07:19:00 > Big John..
> Go to whatismyip.com
> Asuming you are a paradise customer it will be
> 203.98.49.150

Am with Paradise DSL and it shows my IP as 203.79.84.126 which my router confirms it currently is. 		Big John (551)
119784 2003-02-10 07:26:00 > > Big John..
> > Go to whatismyip.com
> > Asuming you are a paradise customer it will be
> > 203.98.49.150
>
> Am with Paradise DSL and it shows my IP as
> 203.79.84.126 which my router confirms it currently
> is.

Well then you're one of the few users who's traffic isin't being routed theough the proxy server (I think).

If you login to ChatF1 then I can comfirm that you are not going through the proxy.


Cheers

Liam 		nz_liam (845)
119785 2003-02-10 07:39:00 Your IP Address:
203.98.48.151

So that's why Paradise has been so sucky lately, and I am getting lots of error messages, but when I switch to FreeNet there's no problems. Would this also have anyting to do with slow connection speeds and incredibly long "verifying user name and password" processes lately? (no, I don't have log onto network ticked).

I run a scan in the following IP block - here are the results. (I removed all the dead connections apart from the ones above and below the active ones)

*********************************
Scanned 203.98.48.100 - 203.98.48.249
10/02/2003 8:34:31 p.m.

IP Ping Hostname

203.98.48.100 177 ms ge9-0-941.u11.pnr.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.101 192 ms ge9-0-941.u12.brh.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.102 Dead N/S
..
203.98.48.129 Dead N/S
203.98.48.130 186 ms tcs1.sym.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.131 179 ms tcs2.pnr.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.132 214 ms s1.sym.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.133 Dead N/S
..
203.98.48.149 Dead N/S
203.98.48.150 215 ms cf1.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.151 212 ms cf2.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.152 Dead N/S 		Jester (13)
119786 2003-02-10 07:42:00 Your IP Address:
203.98.48.151

So that's why Paradise has been so sucky lately, and I am getting lots of error messages, but when I switch to FreeNet there's no problems. Would this also have anyting to do with slow connection speeds and incredibly long "verifying user name and password" processes lately? (no, I don't have log onto network ticked).

I run a scan in the following IP block - here are the results. (I removed all the dead connections apart from the ones above and below the active ones)

*********************************
Scanned 203.98.48.100 - 203.98.48.249
10/02/2003 8:34:31 p.m.

IP Ping Hostname

203.98.48.100 177 ms ge9-0-941.u11.pnr.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.101 192 ms ge9-0-941.u12.brh.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.102 Dead N/S
..
203.98.48.129 Dead N/S
203.98.48.130 186 ms tcs1.sym.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.131 179 ms tcs2.pnr.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.132 214 ms s1.sym.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.133 Dead N/S
..
203.98.48.149 Dead N/S
203.98.48.150 215 ms cf1.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.151 212 ms cf2.telstraclear.net
203.98.48.152 Dead N/S 		Jester (13)
119787 2003-02-10 07:44:00 sorry about the double post but Paradise disconnected when I pressed Post Message, then would not reconnect (invalid username????) - so I used FreeNet. Obviously the first post made it through.. Jester (13)
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