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124035	2003-02-27 04:25:00	<<Ghost will automatically make the CD bootable when creating an image to a CD-R/RW, if the process you choose uses the Ghost Virtual Partition. >> Thanks Jen - I think this finally hits the nail on the head. I will have a good look to find the Ghost Virtual Partition method. Thanks also for the USB info. Cheers, Steve_L	Steve_L (763)
124036	2003-02-27 04:39:00	> I will have a good look to find the Ghost Virtual Partition method . If you made your image from within Windows i . e, started off with the Ghost wizard, that is the Virtual Partition method - it is done automatically . Manual - page 210 The virtual partition is a partition that is created when you perform a Norton Ghost operation from Windows . All the files required for the backup, restore, or clone are automatically installed onto the virtual partition and the task is performed . Did you create your image with the wizard? Jen	Jen C (20)
124037	2003-02-27 09:16:00	Hello Jen, <<All the files required for the backup, restore, or clone are automatically installed onto the virtual partition and the task is performed. Did you create your image with the wizard?>> Yes, I have now done this twice, using wizards. That is, I have 2 CDs, each has the C drive image on it - BUT still no executable ghost file: ghost.exe This is really stumping me. I did the wizard for Virtual Partitioning, and even read the Help pages on the topic, and ran the Wizard three times. All it did was to boot in DOS and prompted me to chose selection 1. (1 of 2 choices); then it told me to type in ghoreboot (or similar to this command) and yes, it did reboot to Windows, but no Ghost and no new CD created. Egad this is exasperating. How in the world can I get a CD with the ghost.exe on it so that the CD will start in DOS automatically? I can see the ghost.exe file, within the Program Files/ NSW/ so on and so on [meaning that the ghost.exe is located within the NSW folders. But this does not get the CD to boot up in DOS. Hope that you are patient, Jen. I just cannot see how to do it. Either I am reading the instructions upsidedown or whatever, or the Ghost user interface must be about the worst one that I have encountered in ages. Thanks again, Steve_L PS If anyone else besides Jen can help out here, please do so. To recap: I have successfully made an image of my hard drive, put onto a CD - Win98 is nice and small compared to WinXP :) ....but in order to use this CD in case of a HD total corruption or meltdown and replacement HD - to use this imaged CD I must also use a DOS floppy.....which is OK but I am told that it can be done without the floppy - all on the one CD.	Steve_L (763)
124038	2003-02-27 10:06:00	Hi Steve :-) I think it would be good if we can rule out the possibility your PC is not set to boot from bootable CD's (just in case) :-) When your PC starts up, you should see a message similiar to "Press DEL to enter SETUP". When you see this message hold down that key until the BIOS blue screen appears. Arrow down to "Advanced BIOS feature", and press enter. Write down what is listed for: First boot device Second boot device Third boot device Press ESC to exit and then exit without saving at the prompt. Your PC will start up again as per normal. Post back here with what the settings are currently. Cheers Jen	Jen C (20)
124039	2003-02-27 19:18:00	OK Jen, here it is, from the BIOS / boot devices: 1 [Removable Devices] 2 [Hard Drive] 3 [ATAPI CD-ROM Driv] 4 [Network Boot]	Steve_L (763)
124040	2003-02-27 19:55:00	Steve, it looks like your computer is set to boot from a floppy disk (1 [Removable Devices]). To make it boot from your Ghost CD you will need to change that order to 3 [ATAPI CD-ROM Driv] with 1 [Removable Devices] as the second choice. Do the changes then try booting from the CD again.	Susan B (19)
124041	2003-02-28 09:49:00	Thanks Susan. But I don't want to make a silly mistake, so just to be sure of the order, I need to change it to: 1 [ATAPI CD-ROM Driv] 2 [Removable Devices] 3 [Hard Drive] 4 [Network Boot] ....Is this correct? And just how do I change the order? Will it be displayed (how to change the order) on the screen (after pressing DEL to get to the Bios settings)? ....and....by changing this order, does it mean that I cannot boot from a floppy, only with a CD? Thanks for your kind attention, and patience. Steve_L	Steve_L (763)
124042	2003-02-28 10:02:00	Hello again Steve The order you have now listed will be fine . . . I actually have mine like this: 1 Floppy 2 CDROM 3 Hard drive What this is basically doing, is telling the PC to first look at the floppy, and then the CDROM and thirdly the hard drive when booting up . To change your order, go back to the Advanced BIOS feature area . Arrow down to the first boot device and press enter . Use the arrows to select floppy . Then arrow to the second device and select CD ROM . Do the same for the third device but select Hard Drive this time . Press Y for save at each change . Exit out of BIOS making sure you also select save changes . After the PC has booted up, insert your ghost CD and restart the PC - hopefully your PC will boot from the CD . You will notice after changing the BIOS settings a new message during boot up about "Failure to boot from ATAPI . . . . " or something - that is quite normal and is nothing to worry about . It just shows that the PC is checking the CDROM for a bootable disk, but didn't find any (if the drive is empty) Post back if you need more information Jen	Jen C (20)
124043	2003-02-28 10:09:00	>....and....by changing this order, does it mean that I cannot boot from a floppy, only with a CD? You can boot from either, the PC will look for a boot floppy first, if it finds none, it will then look for a bootable CD and if there isn't one, it will then boot into Windows as per normal. Jen	Jen C (20)
124044	2003-03-01 00:12:00	>SUCCESS !!! :-) :-) Yes, folks, it is true. Now I can put in a Ghosted Image (of my hard drive) on CD and it will boot from that CD (and into the DOS Ghost screen). Thanks Jen for the clear instructions. I have never altered the BIOS settings before and was a little confused, but the order thing was apparent from your post. My BIOS pages were somewhat different than your instructions, but close enough for me to figure out how to change the start sequence. Susan, et. al., what initially confused me was that there was not .exe file on the CD. There still is not. So I assumed the CD would not work, despite new BIOS settings. To finally clarify things, here is one more question: >>Since I now can make bootalbe CDs with a Ghost image of my hard drive, I can assume that if the hard drive has a melt down, or I get a new hard drive, have to reformat or whatever, I can then insert the Ghosted image CD and the computer will find the Ghost DOS screen so that the image can be reinstalled. Correct? I did do an integrity check, and it passed. But I have not tried to reinstall the image since - of course - my hard drive is not stuffed up. BTW, with Norton Systems Works 2003, as you probably are aware, there is the program Roxio Go Back. Well, I have successfully used this in the last few days, going back to a Safe Point.....but.....there have been some notable UNsuccessful times when Go Back's history was wiped clean of all go back points - and this happened when I really needed it. My thoughts on this are that when I have tried to install programs (such as Adobe Acrobat, full version) with Go Back running in the background, the installation process must have gone awray, causing corruption that resulted in Win98 not being able to shut down. I had to then uninstall the program(s) and then finally use NSWks Reg Track to get back to a place where Win98 would shut down safely. Egad, I have never rebooted a computer so many times as during the last week! Now when I install a program, it is with Go Back and Reg Track closed, along with everything else except Ghost which does not seem to cause problems. After each installation I reboot and if all is OK, I do a Reg Track snapshot. Once all programs are installed, I will get Go Back running. Susan and Jen, thanks much for your kind assistance. Hopefully all will go OK now. I have learned a few things, and I hope others here have also. Cheers, Steve_L	Steve_L (763)
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