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Thread ID: 127224	2012-10-10 19:02:00	WOF Debate	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

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1306281	2012-10-12 20:23:00	Yeah, I wondered for a while if my prop valve(s) were becoming stuck simply because I never stomp on the brake hard enough to make the darn thaings actually do some work, so I got really heavy on the pedal for a bit, and maybe it helped. I can hear the shoes moving and releasing if I give it a good firm pump, and on odd occasions I work the brakes hard while waiting at lights just to keep things moving. Personally, I struggle to understand why they'd want a valve that makes the rear brakes so feeble compared to the front brakes. If I'm gonna lose traction during an emergency stop, I'd rather let the rear slide and keep some steering (traction / control) on the front. Instead these prop valves are configured to ensure your front end loses control first. Where is the logic in that? Is it based on the assumption the average mug will lock things up and fail to correct for it? It'd be the first bit of gear they'd trash in a car used at Bathurst... bar the Holdens, which are trash within a decade anyway. ;) The proportioning valves usually stick when they are operated under max braking, at rest they are closed so if stuck there they would not be proportioning. They quite often stick open when bleeding the brakes so there is almost no braking at the back wheels. The valves are more for woman drivers who only know go and stop in the car.	prefect (6291)
1306282	2012-10-13 21:45:00	Talking to last week who was complaining about the cost of Brake Pads being replaced on his car and how unsafe his car would be if a WOF was done every 12 months. He could not see my point that 12 months would be the maximum to go before getting a WOF and if he felt that way nothing was to stop him having a WOF every 6 months or whenever during that 12 months. Thats when he started on about his Brakes again! When I pointed out to him that I noticed he liked using his brakes a lot and keeping a little bit of distance would mean not using them so much he got a bit upset. Anyways on Friday he was stuck behind me :) First thing he said to me after we parked up was "Your Brakelights dont work!!", probably because I did not need to use them was my reply. Is it so hard to understand that being in control looking ahead far enough to predict what is happening prevents wear to the brakes as well as to the tyres? An overlooked piece of legislation to make people aware of vehicle safety would be to issue demerit points for illegal tyres at 25 points per tyre and be just as harsh on private vehilces as they are on commercial vehicles. But then I guess I am one the few who finds the current WOFs easy to pass through.	coldfront (15814)
1306283	2012-10-14 02:57:00	I see Greg Murphy is getting into the WOF issue. :)	Trev (427)
1306284	2012-10-14 04:07:00	I see Greg Murphy is getting into the WOF issue. :) Not quite. He is being very well paid to present the MTA's interest. Got little to do with his personal perspective on the subject.	CliveM (6007)
1306285	2012-10-14 05:28:00	Not quite. He is being very well paid to present the MTA's interest. Got little to do with his personal perspective on the subject. I always detested Murphy after his childish tantrum when he got beaten by the Pirtek Ford driven by Marcos Ambrose. Now I hate the bastard for campaigning for bi yearly inspections of cars.	prefect (6291)
1306286	2012-10-14 05:48:00	Not quite. He is being very well paid to present the MTA's interest. Got little to do with his personal perspective on the subject. I'm will aware of that. :)	Trev (427)
1306287	2012-10-14 05:49:00	I always detested Murphy after his childish tantrum when he got beaten by the Pirtek Ford driven by Marcos Ambrose. Now I hate the bastard for campaigning for bi yearly inspections of cars. He is being very well paid to present the MTA's interest At least Murphy's a little more subtle than say a retired Fair Go announcer flogging off carpets.	WalOne (4202)
1306288	2012-10-14 06:14:00	At least Murphy's a little more subtle than say a retired Fair Go announcer flogging off carpets. I could not agree more. I have lost all respect for that guy.	CliveM (6007)
1306289	2012-10-14 06:21:00	At least Murphy's a little more subtle than say a retired Fair Go announcer flogging off carpets.i would say Kevin Milne would have done a little bit of home work before letting a company use his name to front a company, it's a shame the same cant be said for some ex sports players fronting financial companies	plod (107)
1306290	2012-10-14 06:26:00	i would say Kevin Milne would have done a little bit of home work before letting a company use his name to front a company, it's a shame the same cant be said for some ex sports players fronting financial companies Or car adverts.	Nick G (16709)
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