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Thread ID: 31364 2003-03-19 11:48:00 HardDrive not work (not alowing boot) sc0ut (2899) Press F1
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129511 2003-03-19 11:48:00 ok heres my latest problem
My 40GB Maxtor HD (which used to run in my comp) was lent to a friend.
He formatted it (all ok)
He used it (all ok)
but between his house and my house for some reason it wont detect the Hard Drive in Bios
the jumpers are correct (it has no OS on it and it is Slave)
it says

Master: Maxtir 80GB Hard Disk
Slave: º|º |º|º|º|º |º|º|º|º

WHAT IS " º|º|º|º " ????????
is it broken
PS i'd rather not format it cos i want the files off it
sc0ut (2899)
129512 2003-03-19 12:17:00 You have it set as "slave", but is it on the "master" connector (end connector on the spare IDE cable)?

If so, its confused, so either plug it into the "slave" IDE connector (the one about 100mm befor the end connector, or set it as Master if plugged into the end connector on the spare IDE cable.

Each IDE port has 1 "master" and one "slave"
godfather (25)
129513 2003-03-19 12:22:00 I don't quite understand the °|°|°| ??? or what you mean by between houses?

Slave should be open (no shunt/jumpers on it) and Master should have a shunt on it. Could also set both to cable select but I prefer master/slave settings.

I would mess around with the bios in the hard drive section, hopefully it's got autodect but instead of choosing what I believe would be the default LBA choose Large or the other one which I always forget, Usually it's something I'd know when I'm in the bios changing those settings.
Kame (312)
129514 2003-03-19 12:40:00 Yes, I agree with Kame. Try to autodetect the drive in the BIOS, because if your friend formatted the drive with a different BIOS setting than you have set in your PC, it will certainly cause problems. Rod J (451)
129515 2003-03-19 14:03:00 >I don't quite understand the °|°|°| ???
this means in stead of it reading "40gb Mator ATA133 Hard Drive" it reads "°|°|°|°|°|°|°|°|°|"

>or what you mean by between houses?
i let him transport it form my home (house) to his home (house) so he could put the drive in his computer

my comp has cable select, so i'm using that (i know it works cos i have been hot swapping my drives over before)

i'm glad to hear it may not be broken, i was thinking it would be

i update my BIOS and then try screwing around with it.
and i didn't know that it matted who formats a HD, and considering they are the same brand Mothe Board (diferent model)
sc0ut (2899)
129516 2003-03-20 04:58:00 Cable select works by having one wire in the cable cut after the first drive connector. Most drives have a CS option to use for that, rather than MAster/SLave.

If the drive worked before, why would you change the BIOS? That's just adding variables to the problem.

As for formatting the drive, if the BIOS can't find it, the OS can't format it. :D
Graham L (2)
129517 2003-03-20 04:59:00 Cable select works by having one wire in the cable cut after the first drive connector. Most drives have a CS option to use for that, rather than MAster/SLave.

If the drive worked before, why would you change the BIOS? That's just adding variables to the problem.

As for formatting the drive, if the BIOS can't find it, the OS can't format it. :D

This might double post; one of those things. :-(
Graham L (2)
129518 2003-03-20 15:20:00 > You have it set as "slave", but is it on the "master"
> connector (end connector on the spare IDE cable)?
>
> If so, its confused, so either plug it into the
> "slave" IDE connector (the one about 100mm befor the
> end connector, or set it as Master if plugged into
> the end connector on the spare IDE cable.
>
> Each IDE port has 1 "master" and one "slave"

Yes but it does not matter where on the cable it is. It will work from both points. Maybe some old comps/drives did not but not these days.

That aint the problem
Big John (551)
129519 2003-03-20 22:47:00 Only last week when I put another HDD in (I use caddies for second HDD's) it showed up as $?$?$?$?$?$? (a slight variable on Sc0uts problem but remarkably similar).

I had it set to master when it already had a master on that IDE. Corrected it and all was fine.
godfather (25)
129520 2003-03-20 23:31:00 that is true
it worked before and the bios should be able to read it or at least detect it
i'll give it back to my friend and see if it works in his drive
If it is broken where in ChCh can i get it fixed? or evaluated on whether it is fixable
sc0ut (2899)
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