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130124 2003-03-22 11:28:00 I had CyberChuck ask me earlier this evening if I'd had any.. and I think i just got one.

I was in ICQ Lite chatting.. and typing real fast... as you do.

Now, I had a beep and a window appeared on my screen. I dunno what it was coz I hit space pretty quickly, but I missed the last 3 letters on the word i was writing in ICQ, and so Im assuming that I got sent one. ICQ is the only thing open and Ive got one contact who's actually talking to me, the rest are simply permanently online. It was too small to be an ICQ window (Yes, i noticed the size was about half what I have my ICQ windows at) and it made a 'ding' when it appeared.

Sent myself a message and it came up in the same place (Center of the screen) and made the same ding.

Now, is this a flaw in the OS?

How is it possible?

Can I do it at home?

Who may have sent it to me, and what about?

Anybody care to comment???



Chilling_Silence
Chilling_Silence (9)
130125 2003-03-22 11:53:00 I know that 2k/xp can do it, not sure about earlier NT based OSs and I haven't tried on Server 2003 or Longhorn . 98SE needs to run winpopup before it can receive them .

If you received one on the net there is a good chance that you don't have an adequate firewall ;) .

As far as I'm aware it is actually done by way of a text file being sent with a special windows share type thing . It is possible to spoof senders *looks at program a mate wrote* .

A netsend message is sent by going net send <IP/ComputerName> <message> and it will send the message .

At the college I was at last year these messages were used A LOT . Was very handy for communicating with people in class .

The reason for netsend spam to have only started fairly recently (since XP released) is that up until then the majority of home users were using a Windows 9x based OS . Now with XP theres a whole heap of people that can receive these messages .

It is possible to disable the messenger service in XP which will mean that you could no longer receive them . I personally like having the ability to recieve them and will some times inform my firewall to allow the message in .

I recommend looking at what sort of firewall protection you have as I don't think it could be all that much if you received the message .
-=JM=- (16)
130126 2003-03-23 02:47:00 Well, I dont use a firewall at the moment.. Im connecting at 28K on a 56K modem, so nobody could really hack the PC in a hurry, im not gonna worry til I get ADSL.


Ive been having some fun though with CyberChuck...

He gave me his IP address, and told me to Net Send to him.

I did, and it worked.. Just typing:
Net Send CC's_IP message_goes_here

So I thought "Why not try and take it one step further"?

So I made a batch file to send it to CC's IP address (ending in .31) and this Batch file sent a message to:
.31 (CC)
.32
.33

The IP ending in .32 got my message, so Im assuming it was running an NT-Based system, wherea .33 timed out.

Could the culprits simply be doing this?

Could this possibly be classed as Spam in the future?

Any comments?
Chilling_Silence (9)
130127 2003-03-23 02:57:00 > Could this possibly be classed as Spam in the
> future?
>
> Any comments?

the future is now, spammers have been using this method for a wee while

www.uwm.edu

grtz sal.
tga

* im been offline for a while due to poorness and an overdue isp account :(
sal (67)
130128 2003-03-23 07:11:00 Yeah they'll pretty much just do a big mass send out to lots of IP addresses.

The other really annoying one is when you're at a LAN playing games and someone sends you a message :_|
-=JM=- (16)
130129 2003-03-23 10:22:00 Heres one sort of spam from the messenger....results in a type of DOS attack.. great for getting back at someone that pissed you off, and their on your LAN (aka polytech haha)..

Try this on yourself

Run -> Cmd

type in
for /L %i IN (1,1,150) DO net send IP_ADDRESS_OR_NETWORK_NAME %i

That should send the messages 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc up to 150.

If you get bored of clicking enter remove the messages..type in
'net stop messenger'
PoWa (203)
130130 2003-03-23 10:36:00 you could write a batch file to do it automatically...

:label
start net send IP MSG
goto label

....hehehe when you put the start bit in...it starts a new message before the fist one is completed...so you get a zillion of em...and they dont stop!!!
promethius (1998)
130131 2003-03-23 10:39:00 ...hmm, maybe i shouldnt hav posted that on a public forum... promethius (1998)
130132 2003-03-23 10:42:00 haha good one promethius...will try tomorrow lol PoWa (203)
130133 2003-03-23 10:45:00 I'd just have to say that one should be VERY careful with batch files to do this.

Last year we used netsend messages A LOT. Ofcourse we started to use batch files and bomb people. Anyway, some fool left their computer logged in when they'd gone home. This person had done this quite a lot of times. So someone decided to teach them a lesson. Some creative editing was taken to on this batch file. :D

This was the result (geek.orcon.net.nz).
-=JM=- (16)
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